We got to dive off the deep end into this hopelessly hopeful conversation with Nick Ditchburn,  Co-founder of Damn Thieves.

This conversation was a gift to be a part of.  We discussed all things mental health,  creating community through conversations, re-building male archetypes & societal expectations, finding meaning in what you do & stepping back into your passion & creativity after a hiatus. 

Nick shared with us what inspired himself, and Damn Thieves co-founder Tony, to put their bodies on the line to fundraise for Mental Health organisations Gumboot Friday & I am Hope.  

And as much as we dove deep into important topics we had a damn good laugh along the way, and reminded ourselves of the importance of remembering to infuse a sense of play into life!

We also yarned about:

• How children change your view on the world and how you move through it
• Losing a friend to suicide & the profound effect it can hav on you
• Anxiety & finding a way through
• What we will tolerate & what we won't
• Discerning your own truth 
• Healing
• Altruism
• Starting a not for profit
• Serendipity & "luck", how they show up when you start stepping into your purpose
• We're all agents of change
• How the hardest things we do can sometimes end up being the easiest

And we finished up on three important life rules:  remaining hopelessly hopeful, being kind & not being rude to waiters!

Big love Jax & Kim

Trigger alert: suicide is discussed in a part of this episode, if it raises anything for you or you need emotional support please txt 1737 in NZ for Lifeline, or visit www.findahelpline.com to find a contact number for emotional support for the country you live in. 

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