This week, Kate and Katherine discuss mentors. Kate sings the praises of both informal and formal writing mentors, and Katherine laments a work mentorship that never got off the ground.

Then Kate speaks to writer of historical fiction for children, teens & adults (and mentor!) Kelly Gardiner. They cover everything from pirates to residencies to 'golden hours'. BYO notepad.

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