After a few weeks apart, the hosts catch up.  Kate's big news is...well, we still can't tell you. But we promise to fill you in VERY SOON! But we can tell you what we've been reading and listening to and what Katherine has planned for her US and UK visits.

Then we speak to debut author Nina Kenwood about winning the Text prize, and what it's been like to bring her brand new book and brand new human into the world simultaneously (almost).

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