This episode, Kate and Katherine catch up on events they've been doing. 

Then Katherine speaks with Gerii Pleitez, author of On the Sunday, She Created God and founder of Kara Sevda Press.

Check out show notes for this episode on our website www.thefirsttimepodcast.com or get in touch via Twitter or Instagram @thefirsttimepod.

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