The First Time

S2 Ep46: Comfort zones and Sarah Hopkins on utopia, dystopia and real life as inspiration


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The hosts talk about getting out of their comfort zones and what's pushed them this year.  Then Katherine talks to Sydney-based author and criminal lawyer Sarah Hopkins. 

Check out show notes for this episode on our website www.thefirsttimepodcast.com or get in touch via Twitter or Instagram @thefirsttimepod.

Don't forget you can support us and the making of Season Two via our Patreon page https://www.patreon.com/user/overview?u=14470635! Thanks for joining us!



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