John and Carmen make the grave mistake of recording this episode super late at night (for them) and it's the listener who pays the price. Extra credit goes to anyone who can follow what the hell they're talking about. At one point, John tries to mansplain what goes on in Carmen's brain. He also shares why he cries watching TV and not in real life. A fun game to play at home: Guess which one of these podcasters is more dead inside. Also...they have a VERY SPECIAL GUEST! Someone way more intelligent - and awake - than either one of them.