As the name suggests this episode is all about finances. Disordered gambling is extremely likely to have a detrimental effect on your personal finances. In this episode we welcome Ben Holmes for his second appearance on the show to talk about handling large cash sums as part of his job since finding recovery and exploring how that makes him feel. Our second guest Lias Chalk has lived-experience of gambling addiction, and now works for Step Change, and so we catch up with him to learn more about his story. We round off the programme by speaking with Sara Williams, Founder of Debt Camel, to try and gain an insight into the exploitative nature of poor credit lenders ie. payday and guarantor loans. These are often a source of finance for those with an addiction to gambling.