Psychotherapist Kathy Bernard joins Chris and Eric to talk about the impact that the pandemic has had on our mental health and what practical things we can do to care for ourselves better going forward. The conversation moves through various topics such as grief, languishing and how to deal with people around us who have changed during these past 8 months. We also learn Kathy’s “get through the pandemic song” and she shares a track that she hopes will be an anthem for the new normal.