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S2 Episode 3. On Curiosity and Joy
In this episode, Brett docks the conversation from a perspective of curiosity, joy, and survival.
After a candid account of living with suicidal ideation, Brett shares a clinical reframe: curiosity as an actionable, sustaining practice. Brett and Nicole explore how small pleasures, obsessive fandoms, and everyday curiosities can become lifelines. They weave personal stories (from Lord of the Rings to Ted Lasso and Pokémon Go) into a larger argument about utopia as practice, the difference between hope and actionable care, and how genuine curiosity builds connection. Gentle, practical challenges and reading/listening recommendations are offered for listeners who want to lean into joy without erasing the darker realities.
Content note: This week’s episode discusses themes around suicide and mental health.
Brett’s Notes:
Julien Baker “Appointments” music video
Ted Lasso “Be curious, not judgemental” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FofLSherM
Lord of the Rings “Theoden’s Battle Speech” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POdknqszMDY
Brett’s suicide writing:
Thoughts on/of Suicide
On Hope and Despair
On Writing, Connection, and Emotions in a Pandemic
Inside/Out … or … The Workplace
Nicole’s Notes
Lord of The Rings “The tales that really mattered” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C8SX0mWP0
Playlist LOTR: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7Jijv5dCRvZX1RqgjQTSLc?si=c9674fb8b6274893
Need help? Know someone who does?
- Call or text 988- Chat at 988lifeline.org
Connect with a trained crisis counselor. 988 is confidential, free, and available 24/7/365.
Doc to Dock is co-hosted, written, produced, and edited by Dr. Brett S. Goldberg and Dr. Nicole K. Mayberry.
Original music by Matt Bogdanow; artwork by Andre Gonzalez.
Doc to Dock is recorded between Washington, D.C. and Orange County, CA. We record on Nacotchtank/Anacostan, Piscataway, Pamunkey, Hashemann and Tongva lands.
For more or find us on https://linktr.ee/doctodockpod and follow the show at @doctodockpod on Instagram and YouTube.
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By Doc to Dock PodIn this episode, Brett docks the conversation from a perspective of curiosity, joy, and survival.
After a candid account of living with suicidal ideation, Brett shares a clinical reframe: curiosity as an actionable, sustaining practice. Brett and Nicole explore how small pleasures, obsessive fandoms, and everyday curiosities can become lifelines. They weave personal stories (from Lord of the Rings to Ted Lasso and Pokémon Go) into a larger argument about utopia as practice, the difference between hope and actionable care, and how genuine curiosity builds connection. Gentle, practical challenges and reading/listening recommendations are offered for listeners who want to lean into joy without erasing the darker realities.
Content note: This week’s episode discusses themes around suicide and mental health.
Brett’s Notes:
Julien Baker “Appointments” music video
Ted Lasso “Be curious, not judgemental” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_FofLSherM
Lord of the Rings “Theoden’s Battle Speech” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POdknqszMDY
Brett’s suicide writing:
Thoughts on/of Suicide
On Hope and Despair
On Writing, Connection, and Emotions in a Pandemic
Inside/Out … or … The Workplace
Nicole’s Notes
Lord of The Rings “The tales that really mattered” video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C8SX0mWP0
Playlist LOTR: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7Jijv5dCRvZX1RqgjQTSLc?si=c9674fb8b6274893
Need help? Know someone who does?
- Call or text 988- Chat at 988lifeline.org
Connect with a trained crisis counselor. 988 is confidential, free, and available 24/7/365.
Doc to Dock is co-hosted, written, produced, and edited by Dr. Brett S. Goldberg and Dr. Nicole K. Mayberry.
Original music by Matt Bogdanow; artwork by Andre Gonzalez.
Doc to Dock is recorded between Washington, D.C. and Orange County, CA. We record on Nacotchtank/Anacostan, Piscataway, Pamunkey, Hashemann and Tongva lands.
For more or find us on https://linktr.ee/doctodockpod and follow the show at @doctodockpod on Instagram and YouTube.