"The most effective way to do it is to do it." — Amelia Earhart

In this episode of Let's Circle Back to That, Anne and Heather sit down with Natalie Abersfeller for a thoughtful, wide-ranging conversation about confidence—how we build it, lose it, and learn to find our stride again in new seasons of life.

We kick off with a new intro segment featuring a leadership quote and a guessing game, then dive into big questions: Do busy people really get more done? What role does hustle culture play in our confidence? How do postpartum changes, hormones, aging, and comparison quietly reshape our expectations of ourselves?

Natalie and Anne reflect on a decades-long friendship that truly began with a high school car accident by, the power of cross-generational communities like PEO, and why gathering people is more than a personality trait—it's a way of creating confidence for others. We also talk communication tools from therapy, learning to receive constructive feedback, and how family norms shape the way we handle conflict and connection.

Then Natalie takes us into the world of barrel racing—how she found the sport later in life, the camaraderie among women riders, what it takes physically and mentally to compete, and why confidence is built one ride at a time. From caring for horses to racing by fractions of a second, this community is rooted in support, resilience, and showing up.

We wrap things up with a cozy cookie taste test that ties together food, family, memory, and community—because confidence can grow in the smallest, sweetest moments too.

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