Gary is an atheist. Is that a bad thing? Not necessarily, because as Christians we're commanded to love ALL people. Is it sad? Absolutely! Gary still has a lot of pain, hurt, and anger built up within himself. This is all evident in the things he says and how he explains his experiences with religion. Dr. Runcorn introduces yet another brave person who is willing to share their story. Gary didn't wake up one day and decide that he no longer believed in a God. There were steps that he took along his path of life that led him to where he is today. As with many of Dr. Runcorn's guests, Gary struggled with toxic shame and shame itself. There was abuse in his home growing up, both physical and sexual, and coming from a large Mormon family who lived in a dominant Catholic area was no easy task as a young kid. Once again, shame or embarrassment keeps us from sharing with others, especially by the use of a podcast, but Gary is willing to share through the pain.

Again, the purpose of Culture Crux is not to judge or demean the guest because of their experiences or beliefs. Culture Crux is an open discussion, and it's purpose is to share in prayer as the discussion unfolds. Parts of the discussion may be difficult to understand or listen to.

When you're engaged with others...hear their story, hear where they come from, and earnestly pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit to assist you as you build your relationships.