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s2e9 – Passing It On While Living Under Patriarchy


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s2e9 – Passing It On While Living Under Patriarchy

Judy Talaugon and Martha Cinader at AUntie’s Table.

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Season 2 Episode 9
June 20, 2026

In a freely ranging conversation about what’s going on, Martha and Judy discuss patriarchal and hierarchical structures and the importance of reclaiming feminine energy and fostering conversations about truth and healing. The conversation also touches on the value of young people’s perspectives and the need for intergenerational dialogue.

More About the Conversation:
  • The importance of listening to and amplifying marginalized voices in times of crisis.
  • Complexities of homesteading, acknowledging its appeal while recognizing its problematic historical roots.
  • The need for intergenerational wisdom, community support, and a commitment to sustainability and social justice.
  • The challenges of balancing the creative and business aspects of a project, particularly in the context of American business practices compared to those in other countries.
  • The importance of understanding and respecting different cultural approaches to business, emphasizing the value of humility and learning from other societies.
  • The potential for creating a business that empowers students and fosters community, drawing inspiration from the vibrant and inclusive culture of Harlem.
  • The importance of preserving oral history and traditional knowledge, particularly within indigenous communities. It emphasizes the value of passing down wisdom through generations, rather than relying solely on written records.
  • The role of media in amplifying marginalized voices and fostering a sense of community.
  • Dillon Williams: H.I.S. Services

    FEATURED
    Judy Talaugon -Land Protector, Storyteller

    Judy Talaugon is a Chumash and Filipina Land Protector from the Santa Ynez Band of Chumash Indians. She is the daughter of farmworkers and immigrant leaders. Growing up among Mexican and Filipina communities in California, she has been a long-time activist in numerous struggles, ranging from human rights to housing, land rights, and the fight…

    Read more: Judy Talaugon -Land Protector, Storyteller
  • Martha Cinader, Author, Performance Artist

    Martha Cinader is a poet and author living in Harlem, NY. Her young adult novel, Marq and the Queen Fish, is forthcoming in 2026 from Atmosphere Press. Cinader is the founder and Director of the Listen & Be Heard Network, where she hosts and produces The Listen & Be Heard Hour, and Beyond Borders, both non-commercial podcasts and syndicated radio shows…

    Read more: Martha Cinader, Author, Performance Artist
    CD’s and Books
    Edited by Judith Talaugon and Angela Marino, Tribunal Rising

    Tribunal Rising commemorates the 1992 International Tribunal movement in the city of San Francisco to dismantle the legacy of Christopher Columbus and the Myth of Discovery. In 1990, “[a]t the culmination of the Special International Tribunal on the Human Rights Violations of Political Prisoners and Prisoners of War in the US, the American Indian Movement…

    Read more: Edited by Judith Talaugon and Angela Marino, Tribunal Rising
  • Po’azz Yo’azz – Living It!

    Living It! is Martha Cinader’s debut as the producer of her own album, and features an eclectic array of arrangements and musical styles. It was recorded in part in a studio in New York City, part in a studio in Hamburg, and part live at the Mojo Club in Hamburg, throw in some bonus tracks…

    Read more: Po’azz Yo’azz – Living It!
  • When the Body Calls

    This book is a vessel/holding liquid for thirsty desirers/in the empty spiral of the universe/where detail is opinion/one moment is all it takes to answer/when the body calls. This book is just one answer in a life of calling. The storyteller lives inside the breath of home. Whatever home is chosen, whatever breath is owned.…

    Read more: When the Body Calls
  • Dreamscape, Real Dreams Really Make a Difference

    A collection of biographical stories and poems about fascinating people in history whose real dreams made a real difference. Developed in performance, these stories bring old tales to life for contemporary readers in a way that is both entertaining and informative.

    Read more: Dreamscape, Real Dreams Really Make a Difference

    CREDITS– HOSTS: Martha Cinader, Judy Talaugon. Sound Design: Hernan Ramiro. Theme Music: Mana Luca, arranged by Jay Rodriguez Sierra.

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