Decision Factory

[S3] # 38 How Losing Control Made Me a Better Leader - with Gabs Hayes


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After losing her son, nearly losing her daughter, and hitting rock bottom with her mental health, Gabs Hayes decided to stop chasing “success” and start chasing peace.

In this powerful conversation, host Olya Grovel sits down with Gabs — an entrepreneurial mom, business strategist, and self-proclaimed “stay-at-home mom who runs a business” — to unpack what it really means to build a life that feels aligned.

Gabs opens up about:

  • The phone call that changed everything — when her boss asked about work while her daughter was in a coma

  • Losing a child and finding a new definition of freedom through grief

  • How she rebuilt her business (and herself) from the ground up

  • The mindset shift from scarcity to abundance

  • What she means by “mental freedom” and how to cultivate it

  • Why she plans her weeks by priority — not to-do list

  • The real cost of “playing it safe” and how to reclaim your peace

  • How kindness, curiosity, and connection became her superpowers

💬 Quote of the Episode:

“Life is chaotically beautiful — but it’s worth fucking loving.”

🎧 Whether you’re a founder, parent, or someone just trying to find joy in the chaos, this episode will remind you that the most successful life is the one you’re actually present for.

Keywords: Gabs Hayes, Olya Grovel, Decision Factory Podcast, motherhood, entrepreneurship, burnout recovery, mental health, self-worth, mindset shift, abundance mindset, women in business, working moms, founder burnout, redefining success, personal growth, mindfulness, productivity, human design, manifestation, career change, self-awareness




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