Two topics that we had yet to discuss in any great detail until today are social casinos and loot boxes. In this episode we welcome Indira Tondu who, having had no interest in gambling previous, innocently wanted to learn how to play poker and downloaded a mobile phone application. The New Yorker went on to lose $200,000 in three years on virtual chips that had no real money value.

Later in the show we are joined by Jonathan Peniket who became addicted to purchasing FIFA packs following some challenges in his personal life. Jonathan now works for EPIC Risk Management as an Online Gaming and Esports Consultant.