It's a podcast, where we talk about other podcasts!  So many great listening recommendations this episode.  

Then Katherine talks to author Laura McPhee-Browne on short form fiction, covers and how the right bio can make a big difference.  

We know you'll understand that this episode has a different quality of audio than you are used to from us. Eventually we'll get back to studio sound, but until then forgive us the odd crackle!

 

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