This is a special episode brought to you in collaboration with the Apollo Bay Word Fest for their Warm Winter Words event. This interview with Tony Birch is the first of three linked interviews, followed by conversations with Lucy Treloar and Michael Veitch.

In this conversation, Kate and Tony discuss storytelling, the power of place, powerful Aboriginal women and his latest novel The White Girl.

The Warm Winter Words event at Apollo Bay Word Fest is supported by Writers Victoria and the Grace Marion Wilson Trust.