Carmen gives a thumbs up to the latest book she read about a hermit living alone in the woods for 27 years. Then John gets jealous. Not of Carmen's ability to read, but that there's a guy who got to spend that much time alone without anyone bothering him. Also John speaks about a recent trip to the ER (so maybe he wouldn't do well in the woods alone after all). Plus listener feedback from a previous episode and Rudy Giuliani stops by to say hello and goodbye.