Resilient Cyber

S3E26: Mark Curphey - Challenges in SCA/SBOM and Modernizing OWASP


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- You recently wrote an article about the SBOM Frenzy being Pre-Mature. For those not familiar with SBOM's, what is an SBOM and what has led to the frenzy as you call it?

- In your article you discuss challenges related to the build environments and hosts that can cause different outputs and SBOM's unless a build occurs on two identical machines. Can you explain why that is? 

- What role do you think emerging frameworks such as SLSA or SSDF and higher maturity requirements for things such as Reproducible Builds or Hermitic Builds play in alleviating some of these concerns?

- Given the challenges of dynamic ephemeral build environments and hosts, do you think this undermines the usefulness of SBOM's as an industry artifact related to software supply chain security?

- You also recently wrote a follow-up article about why Software Composition Analysis (SCA) is really hard. What are some of the reasons you think that is the case?

- You mentioned challenges with CVE's and their accuracy. As many know, CVE's are created via CNA's and as part of NVD. Do you think alternative vulnerability databases such as the Global Security Database (GSD) or OSV will alleviate any of the vulnerability issues in the industry? 

- You were involved in founding OWASP. I personally, and I suspect many others would love to hear about that a bit, given just how much of an industry staple OWASP is from Top 10 lists, CycloneDX and countless other widely used projects.

- You recently ran a campaign to be elected to the OWASP Board to try and modernize it and address many gaps you state lead to OWASP being on a path to irrelevance. Can you tell us what some of those issues are and your plan to address it to keep such a great organization a key part of our industry in the modern era of Cloud-native and DevSecOps?

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