In this episode, Rod and Lesley return!  Contrary to news otherwise, the podcast is not retired in the sunset of being a covid era hobby. They are back after almost eight months off and ready to talk once again about Change.  As they get back to it, you hear the rust that needs to be worked through in Rod's dry monotone voice and you’ll smile as you’re reminded of the freshness of Lesley's trusty energy!  These two talk a little about what has gone on over the past year, and what it is like to change from change.