Carmen and John do a movie review of an actual movie for a change: The Innocents on Netflix. This leads to discussion of their most favorite recent horror movie (Can you guess what IT is? Hint, hint.). Then Carmen and John discuss a rodent problem in their beautiful home. Including their experiences with a caustic exterminator and Carmen’s NJ apartment vermin problems which were way worse back in the day. Then they may or may not see an actual mouse DURING the record. Also: Fake commercials!