This weekend, Wembley Stadium plays host to the Papa John's Trophy Final 2022 between Rotherham United and Sutton United, and Mark Clemmit is joined by the two men who's sides will face each other, Rotherham's Paul Warne and Sutton's Matt Gray. The two have never met each in the flesh and Clem has the honour of introducing them both on this week's official EFL podcast. In addition to that, Clem is joined by new Barrow manager Phil Brown who talks about his new challenge with the Cumbrian League Two side, and provides some expert punditry as he previews this weekend's Skybet Championship fixtures which return after the international break.