3rd Degree Black Belt in Goju-ryu Karate and a specialty in fail weapons, John Givelis, comes on the podcast to talk about martial arts training and what lessons can be applied to the world of OCR.  Although John isn't a racer, he did pit crew for Evan for two of his Toughest Mudder podiums and for 2019's World's Toughest Mudder giving him a unique perspective.  Topics covered include basics of different types of martial arts, if Karate is still applicable in a world full of MMA, opinions on OCR from a pit crew perspective and John also shares his opinion on some of Evan's favorite 90s martial arts movies/shows in a quickfire format.

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