This episode Kate and Katherine bask in their respective Fiji/Darwin holiday glows. Katherine is newly obsessed with Julia Cameron's The Artists Way and Kate is similarly late to the party with Stranger Things. There's a lot of great books in the world at the moment and it feels like they mention every single one :) 

This episode's featured book segment is brought to you by Ultimo Press and we are delighted to be talking to Alex Sarkis about her debut novel SOMETHING BLUE.       

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