Kate is about to head off to NZ for a long awaited residency (via Varuna the Writers House) and Katherine is making comics -- check out her 100 day challenge via Insta). The hosts talk data, creativity and what the best selling book of all time is (it might surprise you!). Lots of mentions this ep, including: 

The Chronology of Water by Lidia Yuknavich 

Out of Breath by Anna Snoekstra 

Writing NSW YouTube 

The Palace Papers by Tina Brown 

Lucy by the Sea by Elizabeth Strout

Reasons Not to Worry by Brigid Delaney

The Settlement by Jock Serrong 

Leaf Bookshop YouTube book reviews 

Jayne Tuttle's first book was Paris or Die (2019). Paris or Die was developed into a solo theatre show with director John Bolton and performed in 2021 and 2022 in a variety of venues including La Mama in Melbourne. 

Jayne graduated from the Lecoq theatre school in 2006 and went on to live and work in France as an actor, voice-over artist, playwright, translator and bilingual copywriter.

Jayne was awarded the Eric Dark Flagship Fellowship in 2021 from the Varuna Writer’s House.

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