It's the last episode of a pretty epic season! Kate and Katherine talk the year that was for both of them, plus what they've been reading, watching and listening to. It's not a 'best of' list but it's a great list. Things that get mentioned include:

Lessons in Chemistry by Bonnie Garmun 

This is Dating (podcast) 

If Books Could Kill (podcast) 

The Mel Robbins Podcast 

Crafting with Ursula from Between the Covers Podcast - particularly episodes with Lidia Yuknavitch (Kate's fave 'new to me' writer of the year!) and adrienne maree brown

Babel by RF Kuang

Bliss Montage by Ling Ma. Kate's been impressed with short story collections this year including Cautionary Tales for Excitable Girls by Anne Casey Hardy (who we spoke to here), You Have a Friend in 10A by Maggie Shipstead and Here be Leviathans by Chris Flynn

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