The Imagination

S5E80 | Dr. Juliette Engel & Cathy O'Brien - Navigating & Overcoming MK ULTRA Self-Harm Programming


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Today I’m absolutely honored to be joined on the show today by: MK ULTRA survivors, overcomers, and whistleblowers, published writers and authors, warrioresses, and 2 of my - and many of your - personal inspirations and heroes: Dr. Juliette Engel and Cathy O’Brien

Juliette and Cathy are two extraordinary women whose lives, marked by unimaginable hardship, have become powerful testaments to resilience, healing, and the human spirit’s capacity to overcome. Both survivors of the CIA’s covert MK ULTRA program, their stories of breaking free from trauma and dedicating their lives to helping others are profoundly inspiring. Through their courage, advocacy, and unwavering commitment to truth, they have transformed personal pain into a beacon of hope for countless others.

Though their paths differ, Juliette and Cathy share a profound connection as survivors of MK ULTRA who transformed their pain into purpose. Both women faced systemic abuse within powerful institutions, yet they refused to remain silent. Juliette’s work in rescuing trafficking victims and Cathy’s advocacy for mind control survivors complement each other, highlighting the interconnectedness of personal healing and societal reform. Their stories underscore the power of resilience, faith, and action in overcoming even the darkest of circumstances.

Their lives are a call to action, encouraging others to recognize the signs of exploitation, seek healing, and stand against injustice. Juliette’s and Cathy’s unwavering commitment to truth and compassion serves as a reminder that no matter how deep the trauma, the human spirit can rise, heal, and inspire others to do the same. Through their voices, they light the way for a world where knowledge and love triumph over control and fear.

Today, we are honored to join Juliette and Cathy on this powerful episode as they courageously unveil a critical yet unseen crisis: the sinister mind control programming that drives survivors toward self-harm, self-destruction, and silent elimination. Each day, countless precious lives are stolen by this insidious mechanism, their truths of non-consent buried beneath a false narrative of choice. Unseen by society and often unknown to survivors themselves, this default programming ensures silence, perpetuating a cycle of harm that robs victims of their right to heal. Beyond the horrors of ritual abuse and mind control, this silent holocaust stands as one of humanity’s greatest atrocities, claiming lives in vain while their stories remain untold.

We are deeply grateful to Juliette and Cathy for stepping forward to shine a light on this invisible danger, a threat that endangers the very souls who endured unimaginable horrors as children. With a gentle trigger warning for survivors of mind control or ritual abuse, we invite you to approach this episode with care. Set aside distractions and lend your full heart and attention to these remarkable heroes. Together, we’ll explore the reality of self-harm programming, hear powerful personal testimonies of triumph, and discover how survivors and society can unite to protect innocent lives from being lost. Let their voices inspire us to act, to heal, and to honor the truth.

CONNECT WITH JULIETTE:
Website: https://julietteengel.com/

CONNECT WITH CATHY:
Website: https://trance-formation.com/
Purchase her books: https://trance-formation.com/buy-cathy-obrien-books-official/
Twitter: @RealCathyObrien -

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