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S6 Ep227: Bonus Episode: Brian Moylan


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This episode we talk to pop culture, TV writer and Real Housewives guru, Brian Moylan.

Brian Moylan is the New York Times best-selling author of The Housewives: The Real Story Behind the Real Housewives and has written about television and pop culture for the New York Times, The Guardian, Vice, NBC News, and a few outlets that are NSFW.

Katherine and Brian discuss: 

  • Early writing life, including what to be aware of when writing obituaries 
  • Recapping Real Housewives episodes 
  • What you're critiquing when you're critiquing reality TV 
  • Engaging with criticism of your own work 
  • His book The Housewives: The Real Story Behind the Real Housewives.
  • Challenges writing a book when all your interviewees are told not to talk to you 
  • Whether The Real Housewives is good for women (as suggested by Gloria Steinem) or bad for women (as suggested by Roxanne Gay) 
  • Check out show notes for this episode on our website www.thefirsttimepodcast.com or get in touch via Twitter (@thefirsttimepod) or Instagram (@thefirsttimepod).

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