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S6 Ep262: Summer Series! (the last episode of) Brian Moylan

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Welcome to the last episode in Summer Series -- a chance to catch up on some episodes you may have missed out on the first time around.

If you listened to the season 6 finale, you'll know that The First Time is taking a break in it's current format in 2024 BUT! Don't delete the feed just yet, Katherine will be back (solo) as of next week with The Next Step.

The Next Step is figuratively but also literally in this case, what happens after The First Time. It’s about figuring out what to do next in life. The Next Step will will still feature interviews with writers but other creatives, comedians and entrepreneurs as well. First episode will drop on on Wednesday 13th March! 

This episode we talk to pop culture, TV writer and Real Housewives guru, Brian Moylan.

Brian Moylan is the New York Times best-selling author of The Housewives: The Real Story Behind the Real Housewives and has written about television and pop culture for the New York Times, The Guardian, Vice, NBC News, and a few outlets that are NSFW.

Katherine and Brian discuss: 

  • Early writing life, including what to be aware of when writing obituaries 
  • Recapping Real Housewives episodes 
  • What you're critiquing when you're critiquing reality TV 
  • Engaging with criticism of your own work 
  • His book The Housewives: The Real Story Behind the Real Housewives.
  • Challenges writing a book when all your interviewees are told not to talk to you 
  • Whether The Real Housewives is good for women (as suggested by Gloria Steinem) or bad for women (as suggested by Roxanne Gay) 
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