In this special episode, Kate and Katherine seek out advice from the best as they both prepare to launch brand new books for kids. They are delighted to be chatting with author, illustrator and current Australian Children's Laureate, Sally Rippin.

How to launch a MG book and why it's different from launching an adult book, the art of illustration, taking the business side of author life seriously, the problem with the word 'lucky', how to be a good industry citizen, the difference between 'learning to read' and 'reading to learn' and Sally's advice on writing a cracking kids book. 

Kate & Katherine also chat a little about their new books and upcoming events:

Check out show notes for this episode on our website www.thefirsttimepodcast.com