Industry veteran, musician, composer, producer and engineer Mark Bingham has had a long and decidedly eclectic career in music. We sat down to talk some jazz - specifically Archie Shepp and his 1965 release 'Fire Music' - and may have finally cracked the code to Rob's ambivalence to the genre. REALLY fun conversation!

Songs discussed in this episode: Hambone (recorded live at the Village Gate March 28, 1965) - Archie Shepp; William Blake In Bakersfield - Mark Bingham; Doctor My Eyes - Jackson Brown; The First Girl I Loved - The Incredible String Band; Dream A Little Dream Of Me - Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong; Composition No. 122 - Anthony Braxton; The Way I Walk - The Cramps; Peripetie - Arnold Schoenberg; Hambone, Los Olvidados - Archie Shepp; I Can See For Miles - Petra Haden; Malcolm, Malcolm - Semper Malcolm - Archie Shepp; On The Corner - Miles Davis; Prelude To A Kiss - Duke Ellington; Prelude To A Kiss - Archie Shepp; The Girl From Ipanema - Stan Getz (featuring Astrud Gilberto); The Girl From Ipanema - Mike Tyson; The Girl From Ipanema - Archie Shepp; Shiny Happy People - R.E.M.; Insect Soup - Mark Bingham