Throughout the late 80s and early 90s, Ministry were one of the most terrifyingly aggressive industrial acts around. But in 1983 Al Jourgensen introduced himself to the masses - and this week's guest, producer/musician Dave Trumfio (Chicago's Pulsars) - with the decidedly New Wave 'With Sympathy'. This is NOT your grandma's Ministry, unless your grandma is a moody goth kid singing snappy little synth-pop tunes in a faux-British accent. Enjoy!

Songs discussed in this episode: Revenge (VJ Rob Edge Mix) - Ministry; Submission Song, Tunnel Song, Suffocation - The Pulsars; Burning Inside, Just Like You, Effigy (I'm Not An) - Ministry; Body Bag - Effigies; Going For Adds - Moving Units; Revenge - Ministry; My Spine Is The Bassline - Shriekback; I Wanted To Tell Her - Ministry; Money Is Not Our God - Killing Joke; Work For Love, Every Day Is Halloween - Ministry; Just Like Honey - The Jesus and Mary Chain; Here We Go, What He Say, Say You're Sorry, I Should Have Known Better, I'm Falling, She's Got A Cause - Ministry; It's Not Right - DEVO; Das Lifeboat - The Pulsars