The K + J sandwich is back (gross). Keith starts this week off by discussing his panel he hosted at the internal Shopify conference and how he almost pooped his pants.

Keith talks about some of the other internal talks, including the future of Rails!

Jamie and Keith then discuss why Shopify invests so much energy and resources in Ruby and Rails. It's interesting. What else are you going to do? Watch dance videos on TikTok?

Oh. And Jamie launches something? (Psst...https://next.tatsu.io).

Jamie and Keith end it with a discussion about ElixirConf. Jam-packed baby!