Keith starts the chat with the wonderful encouraging topic of surviving another layoff. Keith pours some out and then made it rain.

Jamie chats about being at a large client and the different shenanigans he has to deal with. He then talks about his amazing trip to Norway for NDC Oslo.

Keith and Jamie then chat about maybe stopping this podcast? You'll have to listen I guess.

Keith talks about his tool-sharpening solution. It's a good one if you're a nerd.

Links

* Shopify layoff [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/04/shopify-cuts-20percent-of-its-workforce-shares-surge-on-earnings-beat.html]

* NDC Oslo [https://ndcoslo.com/]

* Jamie's Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/jwright419/]

* A Man Called Otto [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7405458/]

* Rick Rubin [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Rubin]

* The Creative Act: A Way of Being [https://a.co/d/3hdxbJG]

* Elixir 1.15 [https://github.com/elixir-lang/elixir/releases/tag/v1.15.0-rc.0]

* Toy Alchemist [https://github.com/jwright/toy_alchemist]

Florida man Keith starts off talking about his fancy vacation. Between the Rolls Royces and Oat Milk, he was thinking about the next project at Shopify.

Keith then jumps into a mentoring program he is working on with a mentee at work. He talks about how they paired on a PR review that the mentee.

Jamie then talks about his boring ass shit around Tatsu, Kyber, and his consulting business. If you're into the status of those things, feel free. It's your life.

Links

* Hackers Incorporated podcast [https://hackersincorporated.com/]

* Smartless podcast about green screen [https://www.smartless.com/episodes/episode/2196e896/jon-favreau]

* Kyber [https://kyber.me/]

* Tatsu [https://next.tatsu.io/]

* Fly.io [https://fly.io/]

* Render [https://render.com/]

* MRSK [https://mrsk.dev/]

Keith starts with some excuses on why he's not doing anything but painting figurines. Seriously. It get's better as Jamie tells a joke from NextDoor™.

Keith continues blabbering about Spotify, staffs, and teams that have the runs. He never sent me a picture.

Jamie talks about the friend term sheet he got for Kyber. Jamie then talks a bit about Tatsu. Snoozefest!

Links

* Shopify Courses Plugin [https://apps.shopify.com/courses]

* Kyber [https://kyber.me/]

* Fly.io [https://fly.io/]

* Render [https://render.com/]

* MRSK [https://mrsk.dev/]

* Electric Fun [https://electricfun.io/]

* MicroConf Masterminds [https://microconf.com/masterminds]

Keith snaps and goes postal at work and describes the situation. Keith is CORPORATE. He got put into Shopify jail. Then we get into Keith's Tooling Corner™

Jamie comes in to save the show, again. He starts off talking about cool stuff, not work crap. Then comes the work crap. He talks about some work he did on Tatsu and Juvet. Then he drops a unique opportunity that came his way.

LINKS

* Shopify Shop App [https://shop.app/]

* Handwritten paper bot with ChatGPT built by student [https://www.hackster.io/news/clever-student-has-ai-write-their-homework-by-hand-4087f25994c2]

* Last Week Tonight AI [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqa8Zo2XWc4]

* wezterm [https://wezfurlong.org/wezterm/]

* Lua programming language [https://www.lua.org/docs.html]

* Chicago Magic Lounge [https://www.chicagomagiclounge.com/]

* Electric Fun [https://electricfun.io/]

* Slack App Home [https://api.slack.com/tutorials/app-home-with-modal]

* Tatsu Next Changelog [https://next.tatsu.io/changelog/a_bitof_housekeeping]

* ChEEx [https://github.com/juvet/cheex]

* Kyber [https://kyber.me/kyber-for-slack/]

The nerds are back for another week. Sorry.

Keith chats about Hack Week at Shopify. He bores you with how the hack weeks go at Shopify and what he worked on with various teams. Shsh...

Jamie comes in with more boring shit and talks about his work on Juvet and Tatsu.

We finish up with more nerd talk about conferences and table top games.

LINKS

* Lego Typewriter [https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/typewriter-21327]

* Tatsu [https://tatsu.io/]

* Juvet [https://github.com/juvet/juvet]

* Juvet parameter normalization [https://github.com/juvet/juvet/pull/79]

* Juvet view implementation [https://github.com/juvet/juvet/pull/80]

* NDC Oslo [https://ndcoslo.com/]

* Beer City Code [https://www.beercitycode.com/]

* Rails Conf [https://railsconf.org/]

* WarHammer [https://warhammer40000.com/]

* AnyCubic 3D Printer [https://www.anycubic.com/products/photon-mono-4k]

We had a false start and I just let it go. No one is listening anyway.

Keith starts off the discussion around a new project he is leading at Shopify. He talks and talks and talks about meetings at Shopify.

Jamie comes in, with boots on the ground, just grinding.

* Tatsu Next [https://next.tatsu.io/]

* Latest Tatsu changelog [https://next.tatsu.io/changelog/chartingacourse]

* Juvet [https://github.com/juvet/juvet]

* Cheex [https://github.com/juvet/cheex]

* Surface UI [https://github.com/surface-ui/surface]

Keith and Jamie get this long, much-anticipated show going as we discuss why we had an unintentional break...damn you chaos 🐒.

Keith talks about how it was to come back after the break with a monkey running loose.

Jamie, who obviously just did a giant rail, starts chatting about some unexpected client changes over the past month and the work he was doing on Tatsu, leading to some extractions in Juvet. Boring!

Keith and Jamie stop to go on a tangent on pull request sizes. We will probably revisit this next week. Snoozefest!

Talk about barn burners. Jamie gets into timezones and what he built on Slack using Derrick Reimer's ZoneX Elixir package. You may need to pull over while listening to that.

Just when you thought the fun was over, we end with a discussion about siphoning off certain customers for performance issues in a multi-tenant system. Slaying.

Links

* Shopify cuts back on meetings [https://www.siliconrepublic.com/careers/shopify-meetings-policy-cutback]

* Meta Biznizz [https://www.workplace.com/]

* Bullet Train [https://bullettrain.co/]

* Surface [https://github.com/surface-ui/surface]

* Phoenix [https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix]

* ZoneX [https://github.com/svycal/zonex]

* SavvyCal Timezone API [https://savvycal.com/time-zone-api]

* Oban [https://github.com/sorentwo/oban]

* SchedEx [https://github.com/SchedEx/SchedEx]

* CodeMash [https://codemash.org/]

First, we are thankful for all the soilders out there in Standupland™. Keith and Jamie get this epi started with some Turkey Talk™ and then we get down to biznizz....if you're still listening.

Jamie starts off with the work he did with Tatsu. Jamie worked on the modal that allows a user to manage their questions, which got a bit complicated.

Keith chimes in with  how the "Shopify Thanksgiving" code freeze went, as well as how his session on Hotwire went at the internal Ruby Guild™. Keith ends the conversation with some mentoring he is doing with interns at Shopify.

Links

* Rocket League [https://www.rocketleague.com/]

* Tatsu [https://next.tatsu.io/]

* Linear [https://linear.app/]

* Hotwire [https://hotwired.dev/]

* Hey Taco [https://heytaco.com/]

* CN Tower [https://www.cntower.ca/] (for Keith)

* Shopify esports team [https://shopifyrebellion.gg/]

* Shopify RLCS Comeback [https://youtu.be/Yp1azwV-2Q0?t=1808]

Keith talks normally and Jamie yells into the microphone. Jamie yells about his experience putting on a workshop during the last few weeks and then gets into the meat of his work on Tatsu.

Keith talked about organizing an internal speaking series he is developing inside Shopify. This is leading him to research Hotwire and rewriting some of Shopify functionality using Hotwire and Stimulus.

We then leave you with some exciting chat about...EXCEPTIONS!

Links

* TechBash [https://techbash.com/?gad=netdevelopment&url=https://techbash.com/]

* CodeMash [https://www.codemash.org/]

* THAT Conference [https://that.us/]

* Tatsu Release this week [https://next.tatsu.io/changelog/fasterstandupsetup]

* ChEEx repository [https://github.com/juvet/cheex]

* The reason I spent $14 during recording [https://standupsoldiers.com/]

* Jamie's ElixirConf talk [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyRLeAggi6o]

* Shopify / Remix announcement [https://remix.run/blog/remixing-shopify]

* Keith is no longer a programmer (jk not programming as much as her used to though).

* More talk about writing tasks for junior devs. Basically the same conversation as last time.

* How Keith breaks down projects. Start with the end in mind and go backwards.

* Keith wishes for that we didn't use Packwerk (github.com/shopify/packwerk [http://github.com/shopify/packwerk]) within the app he works on.

* Jamie talks about using Juvet in Tatsu and some issues with type checking.

* Juvet templates are becoming a sticking point and the next focus for that project.

* Jamie is loving his work on Tatsu (and not so much his client work).

* Cedar Point is dope during "Halloweekends", but the fast pass arms race is real.