In part two, Dr. Megan Cuzzolino, Dr. Lauren Hodges, and Jessica Billiet dig into what prevents curiosity in our kids, our workplaces, and ourselves. From the neuroscience of dopamine and threat response, to how schools and organizations are designed for speed over exploration, the conversation gets practical. What does it take to protect the margin where curiosity lives? And what can leaders do to model and cultivate it? Part 2 of 2.

00:00 Intro

02:02 Neuroscience of Curiosity

05:39 Aperture Threat and Learning

10:35 Failure Safety and Workplace

21:23 Curiosity Needs Margin

24:14 Awe and Context for Kids

29:00 Patience and Social Safety

31:59 Leader Takeaways and Wrap

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Reflecting on Your Learning in the Workplace: https://nextlevellab.gse.harvard.edu/learning-modules/reflecting-on-your-learning-in-the-workplace/

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