Sacramental Whine

In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing Bishop Chris Carpenter the Presiding Bishop of the Reformed Catholic Church.

In this episode, we talked about several things, including:

• How he left the Roman Catholic Church to find the Independent Sacramental Movement.
• Clinical Pastoral Education and Chaplaincy.
• His greatest blessing and challenges within the ministry.
• His hopes for the Independent Sacramental Movement.

Links:

Convergent Streams: the Premier ISM Magazine.

This podcast is produced by the Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

This is a special episode of Sacramental Whine: An Independent Sacramental Movement Podcast. If you're not familiar with the podcast, I'm David Oliver Kling your host, and I'm a Bishop within the Community of Saint George (which is part jurisdiction and part religious order within The Young Rite).

Returning to the podcast is Bishop Bob McDonald, a bishop with the Liberal Catholic Union. I interviewed Bishop McDonald, also known as Tau Meinrad, back in episode 17 and he wanted to return to the podcast, and I'm happy to have him back. Check out episode 17 to learn more about him.

We talked about what do you do when the "ordination honeymoon" is over as well as "bishop burn-out."

We also talked about a new project, the United Conference of Apostolic Sacramental Bishops. Several jurisdictions are involved in the UCASB including:

• The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite),
• The Liberal Catholic Union,
• The Society of Franciscan Workers,
• The Reformed Catholic Church,
• and The Anthem Network.

Links:

Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine.

This podcast is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

This is a special episode of Sacramental Whine: An Independent Sacramental Movement Podcast. If you're not familiar with the podcast, I'm David Oliver Kling your host, and I'm a Bishop within the Community of Saint George (which is part jurisdiction and part religious order within The Young Rite).

This episode is special because I have a guest host. The first time having a guest host!

Returning to the podcast is Father Brian Stanford, a priest with the Liberal Catholic Union. I interviewed Father Brian back in episode 30 and he wanted to return to the podcast, and I'm happy to have him back.

We're going to talk about several things including:

• Christian Esotericism.
• Impostor Syndrom.

This episode is sponsored in part by Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine.

This Podcast is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing:

The Reverend Doctor John Mabry. John was ordained to the Old Catholic ministry in 1991. He has served as an associate pastor — and later the solo pastor — of Grace North Church in Berkeley, California since 1993. Grace North Church is a Congregational church that worships in a more-or-less Anglican fashion.

John was consecrated a bishop in 2007 for the Old Catholic Order of Holy Wisdom, he served that community until he retired from the episcopacy in 2012, when he was received into the United Church of Christ as a pastor. He continues to serve Grace North Church, now also received into the UCC, and also serves at Our Redeemer Lutheran Church in Oakland.

He holds a master's degree in Culture and Creation Spirituality from Holy Names College and a doctorate in Philosophy and Religion from the California Institute of Integral Studies, where he majored in Hinduism and minored in Taoism.

John holds certificates in Anglican Studies, Spiritual Direction, and Spiritual Direction Supervision, and for the past sixteen years has directed the Interfaith Spiritual Direction Certificate Program at the Chaplaincy Institute — an interfaith seminary in Berkeley, CA — where he also teaches comparative theology. He has taught spirituality, Christian mysticism, world religions, and pastoral ministry at various graduate schools in the Bay Area.

John is the author of over thirty books. He also owns and operates The Apocryphile Press, a small publishing house with more than 200 titles by 50 authors around the world. Among many other things, Apocryphile publishes many important books on Old Catholic history, theology, and practice.

John is married to Doctor Lisa Fullam, a veterinarian turned-theologian who currently serves as Professor of Moral Theology at the Jesuit School of Theology in Berkeley, CA. They live in Oakland and have three lovely dogs.

In his spare time, John sings in two Bay Area progressive rock bands, Metaphor and Mind Furniture, which between them have released five CDs of original material over the past twenty years.

We talked about several things, including:

• Jurisdictionalism within the Independent Sacramental Movement.
• Christian Mysticism.
• John's Blackfriar novels, "The Kingdom, The Power, and The Glory."
• And other subjects, you just need to listen.

Links:

Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine.

This podcast is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing the Reverend Tracy Barnowe.

This episode of Sacramental Whine: An Independent Sacramental Movement podcast is a special episode. It's special because my guest is an expert in church growth and she came on the podcast to de-mystify this topic.

Tracy has been an ordained minister with the United Church of Christ since 2012. She has over 20 years of experience in growing organizations, and she has even started a few. After years as a revitalization minister, teaching growth workshops, and consulting with declining churches, she decided to start a website to get this information to more churches that need help fast. Her website is http://howtogrowmychurch.com and she is the author of the book, "Grow Your Church: Overcome the biggest obstacle to church growth and get 85% of your first-time visitors to return."

Listen to this episode to learn the following:

• The five lost skills (that cost nothing!) that all churches should master to grow anywhere.
• The most important factor a newcomer is looking for in a church home.
• What the emerging church will look like in 50 years and how to let it happen in your church today.
• The difference between experts, metrics, and evidence-based church growth strategies, and why that is important.

Links:

Tracy Barnowe's webpage.

Grow Your Church (on Amazon).

This episode is sponsored in part by Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine.

This Podcast is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing Bishop Michael Beeson.

Michael, also known as Tau Isidore, is the Bishop of the Diocese of North Texas of the Liberal Catholic Union and serves as Rector of the Oratory of the Assembly of Archangels. Michael is Knighted in the Esoteric Chivalric Order of St. Meinrad and served as a co-founder of the Order of Knights Bishop of Avignon.

Michael was consecrated into Apostolic Lineage by Bishops Bob McDonald and Jeremy Orosco. Outside of his work with the Liberal Catholic Union, he is involved in Hermetic and esoteric studies as well as involvement in a Masonic Lodge under the Jurisdiction of the Most Worshipful Grand Lodge of Texas of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons.

Esoteric studies have largely defined his path. He has been a diligent student of the Hermetic sciences and practices Christianity in the model of Father Marsilio Ficino.

This episode is sponsored in part by Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine.

This Podcast is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing Bishop Kirk Jeffery.

Kirk attended Boise State University and graduated with a Bachelor's degree in Social Work. From there he went to Methodist Theological School in Ohio where he earned a Master of Divinity and Master of Arts in Christian Education with a specialization in Youth Ministry. During seminary, he served as the student associate pastor at Marysville United Church of Christ in Marysville, Ohio.

After graduation, he began serving United Methodist Churches in Oregon and Idaho. While serving as pastor to these congregations, he completed a Doctor of Ministry degree from Drew University (2010).

Upon leaving the United Methodist Church Kirk joined the Open Episcopal Church and was ordained to the priesthood October 20, 2013; however, because of the lack of support shown to the clergy in the United States by the OEC he chose to incardinate with The Young Rite.

Bishop Kirk was consecrated on November 2nd, 2018 and serves as a governing bishop in the Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

This episode is sponsored in part by Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine.

This podcast is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing John Plummer.

John grew up in and around Nashville, TN. He was unsuccessfully raised Southern Baptist and later baptized into the Roman Catholic Church. He first came across independent sacramental churches in the mid-1980s. After becoming actively involved in the ISM in the early to mid-90s, he was ordained to the priesthood in 1996 and consecrated in 1998. He has degrees from Fordham – Bachelor of Arts in both philosophy & theology, Vanderbilt – Master of Arts, in history of Christian thought; and, the Graduate Theological Foundation – Doctor of Philosophy in theology. He is perhaps best known for the published version of his dissertation, The Many Paths of the Independent Sacramental Movement. John is now the associate pastor and bishop coadjutor at St Basil's Parish in Nashville, preaching and celebrating the liturgy every week.

This episode is sponsored in part by Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine.

This podcast is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

In this episode, I had the honor of interviewing Father Brian Stanford of the Liberal Catholic Union. Brian said to me, "I grew up in a Christian-ish household. My mother is a Christian and my father is an atheist. I never had religion foisted upon me and was encouraged to question and search. At the age of 14 I consciously entered the spiritual path when I discovered a copy of Donald Michael Kraig's book "Modern Magick" and the Dammapada. I began experimenting with ceremonial magick and meditation."

Over the following years, Brian spent time with Hare Krishnas, lived in a Zen temple, got addicted to heroin, went to prison, came out transformed.

He continued his spiritual Quest through chaos magick, Gnosticism and Vajrayana Buddhism.

Years of Buddhist meditation and Vajrayana practice resulted in an epiphany which ultimately led him into Christianity, the Divine Feminine through Mary, and the Independent Sacramental Movement.

After two years a Christian he found the Liberal Catholic Union and was recently ordained to the priesthood, having previously been ordained a deacon.

His focus is investigating and practicing esoteric strands of Christianity, learning various aspects of Independent Catholic practice and training in the martial arts. He lives in Ashville NC and is currently working to build a community of people who are interested in engaging with Christianity in new and alive ways.

You can find some of his writing at Seek the Mystery Blog.

We talked about several things including:

• His elevator speech.
• As a new priest, we discussed his thoughts on the priesthood and priestly formation.
• He describes what Gnosticism and Esoteric Christianity means to him.
• He is a student of the martial arts. He discusses his training and how it impacts his ministry.
• He talks about his greatest challenge within the Independent Sacramental Movement.
• And finally, he talks about his greatest blessing since he started following a Christian vocation to ministry.

This episode is sponsored in-part by Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine. Check it out!

This episode is produced by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).

In this episode, I have the honor of interviewing:

Father Kevin Daugherty of Lincoln, Pennsylvania. He is the co-founder, Abbot and priest of Kindling Fires: A New Monastic Order and is Mission Developer/Pastor of the Mission St. Anthony within the Anthem Network. Kevin was ordained to Christian ministry in April 2013, became an Ordained Elder within The Anthem Network in October 2017, and was commissioned as Abbot in June 2018.

In the episode we discuss several things including:

• His elevator speech.
• He describes Kindling Fires: A New Monastic Order. What it is and what makes it unique.
• He describes the New Monasticism movement.
• He talks about his vision for ministry in general and his vision for the Independent Sacramental Movement.
• He describes his greatest challenge within ministry.
• And finally, he talks about his greatest blessing within ministry.

Links:

The Anthem Network.

Kindling Fires: A New Monastic Order.

This episode is sponsored, in part, by Convergent Streams: The Premier ISM Magazine!

This episode is sponsored by The Community of Saint George (The Young Rite).