In this heart-centered conversation, my wife and I explore the deeper terrain of romantic relationships — beyond roles and rules, into presence, truth, and soul. We speak on emotional safety, sacred partnerships, assumptions, and how to love without possession. This is for anyone navigating the edges of love, growth, and spiritual connection.

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⏱️ Chapters:

0:00 – Oceanic Beginnings

Opening the space for an intuitive, soulful riff on relationships.

1:30 – Attention is the Purest Form of Love

Why real understanding starts with presence, not assumption.

3:50 – The Fear of Conflict and Speaking Truth

How fear blocks emotional intimacy, and how to trust your partner with your truth.

6:10 – Commercial Love vs Sacred Connection

Exploring how consumer culture distorts our expectations of love.

9:00 – Creating Emotional Safety

What it means to hold space and create nonjudgmental safety in partnership.

11:45 – Healing Before You Meet Them

Unhealed patterns attract unhealed partners — how to shift that.

14:30 – Endings as Spiritual Initiations

Letting go to make space for aligned love. Ending with dignity.

17:00 – Clearing Baggage to Make Space

How past projections sabotage the present — and what to do about it.