Breathing Through the Stories That Keep Us Stuck
With Chad Shober of The Pneuma Experience

What if the breath moving through you isn’t simply keeping you alive—but quietly inviting you home?

We recorded Episode 18 from our campsite in the Ozarks, this week’s campfire conversation welcomes Chad Shober, founder of The Pneuma Experience, for a powerful exploration of breath, presence and spiritual remembering.

The word “pneuma” means breath, air or spirit—the Divine breath that gives us life. But this conversation isn’t about mastering another breathing technique. Chad invites us into something much simpler and deeper: pausing long enough to breathe with what is already here.

What happens when life doesn’t meet our expectations? When our nervous system becomes overwhelmed, our thoughts create painful stories or we react from fear instead of responding from love?

Can we stop fighting the moment and breathe through it?

During this episode, Chad guides Troy through a deeply personal experience. Troy has often described his mind as a battlefield—a place where fear and stories take over. But rather than trying to silence, conquer or fix his mind, Chad invites him to create a new relationship with it:

“I love my mind. I breathe with my mind.”

In that moment, the conversation moves beyond information and becomes a living experience of coming home—from the noise of the mind to the wisdom of the heart.

Together, we explore:

• Why the breath is more than a physical function
• How pausing helps us move from reaction to response
• Breathing through difficult emotions instead of around them
• The connection between breath and nervous-system regulation
• How our language reinforces the stories we believe
• Releasing the need to judge, fix or control ourselves and others
• Coming home to the heart through presence
• Spiritual awakening as spiritual remembering
• Why every part of our experience belongs
• How coherence creates space for love without requiring agreement

At the heart of this episode is a profound reminder: we are all seeking to know that we are loved, that we matter, that we haven’t been forgotten and that we belong.

Perhaps we were never truly lost.

Perhaps we only forgot.

This episode is an invitation to stop trying to breathe around the parts of life that feel uncomfortable. Bring them closer. Sit with them. Breathe through them. Allow the breath to carry you beneath the stories and back to the presence that has always been waiting within you.

If you are seeking greater peace in your life, don’t miss this episode.

Take a pause. Take a breath. Come sit with us around the fire.

ABOUT OUR GUEST

Chad Schober is the founder of The Pneuma Experience, a space rooted in presence, breath and spiritual remembering. Rather than offering another rigid teaching or program, Chad invites people to experience what becomes possible when they slow down, breathe and listen to the wisdom already living within them.

Connect with Chad and explore The Pneuma Experience on YouTube and TikTok at @ThePneumaExperience.

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Come sit by the fire.

The Bridge Between Faith & Consciousness:When surrender, healing, and love become more important than being right.

This week in Episode 17:

What happens when your faith is challenged... and healing shows up in the place you least expect?

This week our journey takes us from a painful confrontation between Troy and his son over faith, identity, and leaving the church... to an unexpected prayer during a windshield repair... to a Bible study in Cleveland, Tennessee that completely changed our perspective.

Along the way, we explore what happens when Christianity, consciousness, nervous system healing, and personal transformation stop competing and begin speaking the same language.

We also share Troy's battle through nicotine withdrawal, the illusion of control, surrender, abandonment wounds, and what personal power really looks like when life doesn't go according to plan.

This conversation isn't about choosing religion or spirituality. It's about discovering that truth can arrive through many doorways when love is at the center.

🔥 Can faith and consciousness coexist?

🔥 What happens when old wounds shape our beliefs?

🔥 Why is surrender so difficult?

🔥 What if healing is less about being right... and more about becoming free?

If you've ever questioned your beliefs, wrestled with your faith, or wondered if there is a bridge between spirituality and Christianity, this conversation is for you.

Welcome to the campfire.

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EFT, Inner-Child Healing & Nervous-System Regulation with Nancy Gnecco

Day one of our journey begins with a conversation that reaches straight into the heart of why we react, what we carry, and how we begin to heal.

In Episode 16, we sit around the fire with Nancy Gnecco—psychotherapist, energy-psychology consultant, and one of only 29 EFT Founding Masters—to explore Emotional Freedom Techniques, commonly known as tapping.

Nancy helps us understand how childhood experiences can become beliefs, patterns, and emotional reactions that follow us into our adult relationships. Together, we talk honestly about anger, abandonment, fear, the inner child, and what happens when two wounded nervous systems meet in the middle of a conflict.

Troy shares how fear once became anger—and how returning to the wounded parts of his childhood has helped him respond from the man he is today instead of the frightened little boy he once was. Zan shares what she is learning about witnessing emotional reactions without immediately becoming part of them.

As Nancy reminds us, healing is not about never being triggered or never encountering another storm. It is about learning how to return to ourselves more quickly when the storm arrives.

In this episode, we explore:

• What EFT tapping is and how it may support emotional regulation
• How childhood experiences shape adult beliefs and reactions
• Why couples often become two wounded children fighting to be heard
• Moving from fear and anger toward awareness and love
• Why healing our past does not weaken us—it helps us become whole
• Gratitudes, acknowledgments, and affirmations
• A guided tapping exercise you can experience with us

Nancy also shares an exclusive Souljourner offer: four private sessions, including the initial intake, for $500. To request the offer, mention that you are a Souljourner when contacting her.

Learn more about Nancy at nancygnecco.com.

Come sit by the fire with us. You don’t have to have everything figured out. You only have to remain curious—and keep finding your way home.

Two people. One fire. No script.

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Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself by Michael A. Singer
• Emotional Freedom Techniques—EFT for Christians: Tapping Into God’s Peace and Joy by Charity Virkler Kayembe and Sherrie Rice Smith
• Learn more about Nancy Gnecco and her EFT services at nancygnecco.com

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What if the thing you're trying hardest to control... is the very thing keeping you from experiencing peace?

In Episode 15 this week around the campfire, Zan and Troy are joined by special guest Penny Cook of Cook Family Moringa Farm for one of their most honest conversations yet.

What began as a search for a replacement truck became something much deeper.

A blown motor.
A dealership that didn't work out.
A nervous system pushed to its limits.
A relationship learning to choose curiosity over certainty.

Together, they explore what happens when life doesn't follow the plan—and how surrender often opens doors that force never could.

In this episode you'll hear:

✨ Why "control" often disguises itself as safety
✨ The truck that wasn't... and the unexpected detour that followed
✨ How nervous system reactions can hijack our relationships
✨ Why curiosity creates connection while certainty creates conflict
✨ Penny's story of expectations, perfectionism, and learning to trust life on the farm
✨ The healing power of allowing space in relationships without making it mean separation
✨ How asking better questions changes everything

This isn't a conversation about having all the answers.

It's about becoming aware enough to ask better questions.

Because sometimes...

Control becomes the cage.

And curiosity becomes the key.

During this episode, Penny and her husband Matt experienced one of our first Campfire Witness Conversations, and we share what they discovered through simply being seen, heard, and witnessed.

We currently have 2 FREE Beta Sessions available (a $222 value) for couples who would like to experience this offering.

This is not therapy.
This is not counseling.
This is not mediation.

It is a sacred, guided conversation where two conscious couples gather in a safe container.

Together we create space to:

🔥 Be seen without judgment
🔥 Speak honestly and listen deeply
🔥 Recognize relationship patterns with compassion
🔥 Gain clarity through reflection rather than advice
🔥 Practice curiosity over certainty
🔥 Leave feeling more connected—to yourself and to each other

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In Episode 14 we ask... "What if the quality of your life isn't determined by the answers you have... but by the questions you're willing to ask?"

This week, Zan and Troy share one of the biggest breakthroughs they've experienced since beginning the Sacred Souljourners journey. They thought they were learning better communication. Instead, they discovered something much deeper:

Better questions create better relationships.

For years, they listened through fear, old wounds, abandonment, shame, and the stories their nervous systems created long before they met each other. What changed everything wasn't another communication technique—it was learning to pause, become curious, and ask better questions.

In this deeply personal campfire conversation, they explore:

🔥 Why asking better questions creates deeper connection.

🔥 How curiosity is replacing certainty in their relationship.

🔥 The power of creating each day with intention through meditation and affirmations.

🔥 A peaceful paddle on the river, an alligator encounter, and a white feather that became unexpected reminders that life is always speaking.

🔥 Why Jesus asked questions far more often than He gave answers—and what that teaches us about awakening and transformation.

🔥 The launch of their first Campfire Witness Conversation, and why witnessing someone may be more powerful than trying to fix them.

Throughout the episode, one question keeps returning:

Where am I listening from?

Am I listening from...

• Curiosity?

• Love?

• Fear?

• Protection?

• My past?

• Or the present moment?

Often the greatest discovery isn't what another person says...

It's realizing where we've been listening from all along.

If you've ever felt misunderstood, caught in the same arguments, or wondered why relationships can feel so difficult, this conversation is for you.

Take these with you this week:

• Where am I listening from?

• What story am I making this mean?

• What is my nervous system trying to protect?

• What belongs to today...and what belongs to my past?

• Where is life inviting me to expand today?

• Where is love asking me to respond differently?

Sometimes the quality of our lives changes simply because we begin asking better questions.

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CERTAINTY: Releasing the Stories That Were Never Yours

What if the life you're trying to create is waiting on the patterns you're finally ready to release?

In this week’s Episode 13 everything seemed to go wrong.

A truck sale fell through. A motor blew. The Semi broke down. Old fears resurfaced. Childhood wounds came back to the surface. We almost found ourselves repeating the same patterns that have shaped our lives for decades.

But something was different.

Instead of asking "Why is this happening?" we began asking:

"How do we move through this with grace, ease and harmony?, let’s do it differently.”

In this deeply personal campfire conversation, Zan and Troy explore certainty, nervous system healing, generational patterns, abandonment wounds, trust, manifestation, and the powerful invitation of the Strawberry Full Moon in Capricorn.

Together we unpack:

• Why certainty has nothing to do with circumstances.
• How childhood conditioning quietly shapes adult relationships.
• The hidden stories we inherit from our parents and ancestors.
• Why healing begins when we stop identifying with our past.
• How Troy's truck sale became a living lesson in surrender, trust, and letting go of control.
• Practical ways to recognize when you're living from inherited programming instead of your own truth.

If you've ever wondered why you keep repeating the same emotional patterns, this conversation may help you see yourself in an entirely new way.

✨ Put a hand on your heart.
Come sit by the fire.

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With gratitude to Kai Nicola Werner for her thoughtful insights on the Strawberry Full Moon and ancestral healing that helped inspire part of this week's conversation.

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Episode 12: In this week around the fire, we share one of the most pivotal chapters of our Sacred Souljourners journey so far.

What began as a painful relationship rupture nearly pulled us apart. Old wounds surfaced, fears were activated, and we found ourselves standing at a crossroads: continue repeating familiar patterns or choose a new way forward.

Through a powerful coaching session, a heartfelt campfire ceremony, and a series of unexpected real-world tests, we discovered that the greatest lessons often arrive disguised as everyday challenges.

As we reflect on the symbolism of a Venus-Neptune heart opening, the Pluto test that followed, the Knight of Wands oracle card, the sale of Troy's truck, and even getting locked out of our own travel trailer, a deeper truth emerged:

The question wasn't whether we could feel connected.

The question was whether we could stay connected when things went wrong.

This conversation explores what happens when we stop fighting reality, release the stories that no longer serve us, and learn to trust the path unfolding before us—even when we can't yet see where it's leading.

Join us for an honest campfire conversation about love, trust, nervous system regulation, letting go of expectations, embracing uncertainty, and discovering that ease and grace aren't found in a life without challenges—they're found in how we move through them.

Because sometimes the lock isn't the problem.

Sometimes the lock is the lesson.

And sometimes the key has been in our hands all along.

🔥 The greatest breakthroughs are often followed by real-life tests.

🔥 Love deepens when we learn to stay connected during difficult moments.

🔥 Nervous system regulation creates space for conscious choice instead of automatic reaction.

🔥 Letting go of expectations can open the door to unexpected opportunities.

🔥 Ease and grace aren't the absence of challenges—they're how we meet them.

🔥 Spiritual growth becomes real when it shows up in everyday life.

🔥 The answers we're searching for are often closer than we think.

🔥 Sometimes life isn't testing our love—it's testing our willingness to trust it.

00:00 – Love, Lessons & Locked Doors
06:15 – The Fight That Brought Everything to the Surface
18:40 – Learning Regulation & Creating Space
29:10 – The Campfire Ceremony: Burning Old Stories
37:30 – The Truck Sale & Letting Go of Expectations
46:15 – The Knight of Wands: Choosing Spirit Over Fear
53:20 – Locked Out of the Trailer
1:01:10 – The Key Was Inside All Along
1:07:30 – When We Stopped Fighting Reality

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🔥 Awaken • Trust • Align 🔥

Episode 11 introduces The Fire of Commitment = The Trust Gap

What happens when you finally realize that love isn't the problem—trust is?

In this deeply personal campfire conversation, Zan and Troy share how a powerful breathwork session and 3D–5D consciousness masterclass created three unexpected days of peace, presence, and flow. But just when it seemed like everything was shifting, a deeper layer emerged: the hidden fears, nervous system reactions, and old survival patterns standing between them and true commitment.

Together they explore the "trust gap"—the space between wanting to trust and actually feeling safe enough to do it. Through stories of breathwork, nervous system regulation, relationship triggers, childhood wounds, and the challenge of surrendering control, they reveal how fear often disguises itself as protection.

This episode is for anyone who has ever struggled with commitment, battled anxious thoughts, felt trapped by old patterns, or wondered why the same relationship challenges keep repeating.

Around the fire, Zan and Troy ask a powerful question:

What if trust isn't about learning something new—but about putting down something old?

Join us for an honest conversation about healing, vulnerability, faith, nervous system awareness, and what it means to truly commit when every part of you wants to stay protected.

🔥 Topics Include:
• Breathwork and emotional release
• 3D, 4D, and 5D consciousness
• The nervous system and relationship triggers
• Trust versus self-protection
• Fear, commitment, and vulnerability
• Learning to walk by faith instead of fear
• What we're putting into the fire this New Moon

📚 Resources Mentioned:

The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield
The Celestine Prophecy on Amazon

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From Pulpit to Presence: Troy's Daily Dispatches

After spending years as a Baptist pastor and evangelist, Troy now shares short daily reflections on consciousness, faith, personal growth, relationships, and what it means to awaken beyond doctrine and into direct experience. Honest, unfiltered, and straight from the campfire.

🌲 Website:
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Come sit by the fire.

In this deeply personal episode of Sacred Souljourners, Zan and Troy share what happened when life in a travel trailer became an unexpected spiritual retreat.

What begins with a calm hawk perched on a playground and a water moccasin appearing at dawn unfolds into a powerful exploration of trust, abandonment wounds, anger, control, and the patterns that quietly shape our lives.

Following a transformative coaching session with their spiritual mentor, Troy begins uncovering the roots of lifelong mistrust and abandonment. Meanwhile, Zan comes face-to-face with a deeper question:

What has anger been protecting all these years?

Together they explore how nature mirrors our healing journey, why awareness can feel more uncomfortable than staying asleep, and what it means to witness our patterns rather than be controlled by them.

This episode is part of our Month Two theme:

Purification by Fire — Burning Relationships, Roles, and Reactions.

If you've ever struggled with trust, fear, emotional triggers, control, or the feeling that life keeps repeating the same lessons, this conversation may resonate deeply.

Because perhaps we are not broken.

Perhaps we are patterned.

And perhaps healing begins when we finally learn to see.

🔥 Welcome to the fire.

Love,
Zan & Troy

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Episode 9 

🔥 WE FINALLY LEFT: A Story of Faith, Fire & Becoming 🔥

After months of dreaming, planning, downsizing, packing, and navigating one of life's most stressful transitions, we finally did it — we left.

In this deeply personal episode, we share the real story behind moving from a four-bedroom house into a travel trailer, the challenges we faced as a couple, and the tools that helped us move through stress, uncertainty, and emotional overwhelm without losing ourselves in the process.

We also talk about beginning work with our new spiritual coach, Lori Reising, and how the timing of that work unexpectedly brought hidden patterns and deeper healing to the surface right in the middle of the move. Ouch!

And then nature showed up.

On our first night at Ocean Pond, a hawk appeared beside our campsite, followed later by a pair of alligators. We share how these messengers reminded us to trust the bigger vision, stay grounded in the present moment, and have faith in the journey unfolding before us.

If you're navigating a major life transition, standing in the unknown, or learning who you're becoming, this conversation is for you.

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