Safety Third

By Duct Tape Then Beer

What's Safety Third about?

More fun than a powder day. Riskier than leaping from a mountain. Weirder than a week on the playa. From the creators of The Dirtbag Diaries, Paddy O'Connell and Elizabeth Nakano take you on a wild traverse of the ideas that define the outdoor community and the stories behind them. No topic is taboo.

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Safety Third episodes:

02.20.2020
Goodbye, Pals!
Well, pals. Elizabeth and Paddy are moving on from the show, so Safety Third is closing up shop. But, before we go we’d like to say thank you and goodbye. And remember, Safety Third. Always and forever. Learn more about your...
12.12.2019
The Love Traverse: The Long Haul
In our third and final episode of The Love Traverse mini-series we explore how couples have fostered their love through the decades. Marriage counselor Hannah Eaton returns to illuminate the issues couples face and the positive characteristics of long-term partnerships....
11.27.2019
The Love Traverse: Real Life Rom Com
In romantic comedies, the story always begins with a 'meet cute' — a charming first encounter that leads to a wonderfully cheesy romance. But do those really happen in our outdoor community? And after that initial meeting, what’s the reality...
11.14.2019
The Love Traverse: Dirtbag Romance
We are diving deep into dating, love and relationships in our mini-series, The Love Traverse. Our outdoor community faces a unique set of hurdles when finding and keeping love. The mountain town dating pool can often seem like a murky...
10.31.2019
Regaining Extraordinary Function
When Ann Yoshida began physical therapy following an accident that paralyzed her, she was told that the goal of rehabilitation was to 'regain normal function'. But that just didn’t resonate with her. Ann was motivated by goals that went beyond...
10.17.2019
Kill The Stigma, Save Yourself
The United States' Mountain West region contains eight of the top ten states with the highest suicide rates in our country. The suicide rate in the Rocky Mountains is nearly three times the national per capita average, earning the Rockies...
10.03.2019
Chasing Fluid Perfection
Lincoln Dews is a fourth generation waterman from Queensland, Australia. A champion sailor, surfer and paddler from a young age, it’s a wonder he didn’t actually grow gills. At 14, Lincoln won the state Ironman title in his hometown. At...
09.19.2019
Don’t Doubt Drought
Journalist and author Heather Hansman’s passion for whitewater rafting was first born when she was a greenhorn raft guide in Maine. Her love for the beauty and the importance of rivers deepened when she moved West and began guiding on...
09.05.2019
Micro Jaunts Are Mega Experiences
Professional adventurer Alastair Humphreys has biked 46,000 miles and rowed across the Atlantic. Upon returning from the trips, he noticed an interesting response--your trips are amazing, but I could never do that. While his outdoor exploits were personally fulfilling and...
07.11.2019
Conservation Rebuilds Nations
When conservation comes to mind, thoughts often go to natural resource preservation and land and animal protections. But what other positivity lies within the act of conservation? Scientist, author, and CEO of Conservation X Labs, Alex Dehgan, worked in Kabul...
06.27.2019
No Doubt? No Diggity.
When the voice in your head barks, ‘You can’t do it,’ how do you respond? Pro-skier and climate activist Brody Leven has always chosen to look forward. He created a business when he was 9 years old, paid for his...
06.13.2019
Save The Bear, Save The World
When we start to think about battling climate change, fighting for conversation and saving Mother Earth, it can make our heads spin it’s so complicated. For ecologist, filmmaker, and conservationist Chris Morgan, the solution is simple: bears. Chris is a...
05.30.2019
Blast Forward With Tiny Goals
“Going fast is amazing,” says professional windsurfer Zara Davis. “When you’re going over 50 miles an hour, at that point your eyeballs are properly rolling back in your head. It is like being a cork out of a bottle.” In...
05.16.2019
Live at 5Point
In April, we recorded a live show at the 5Point Adventure Film Festival in Carbondale, Colorado. Joining us on stage first were Jen Zeuner and Anne Keller: pizza shop owners, mountain bikers, and stars of the Felt Soul film “Life...
05.02.2019
Make Decisions At Race Pace
How do you make a decision? Think it out slowly. Methodically weigh all the options. Don’t make a snap judgement. Use a magic 8-ball. None of these decision making methods work for Anne Gaylean, Ph.D scientist and mountain biker. In...
04.18.2019
Flexibility Helps You Fly
When a pro athlete makes their living jumping out of an airplane, it’s easy to think they’re super human with an immunity to fear and the mental minefields of emotion. That’s not the case for professional skydiver and Red Bull...
04.04.2019
Shattering Limitations
In her early twenties, ultra marathon runner Melissa Ossanna began to get dizzy spells and experienced what she describes as temporary brain skips. She dealt with these symptoms for more than four years before, at the age of 28, she...
03.21.2019
Rebranding The Outdoors
Teresa Baker has long considered herself an environmental steward. On a 2012 trip to Yosemite National Park, Teresa noticed something stark: she was the only person of color. And she wanted to change that fact. Teresa started by creating the...
02.21.2019
Perfect is the Enemy of Good
The scientific evidence of climate change is undeniable. As is the feeling in our stomach when we recognize the battle we face. Auden Schendler, VP of Sustainability at Aspen Ski Company, has had his shoulders against the sandbags of climate...
02.07.2019
Hindsight Is 50/50
Over the last year, we’ve talked with incredible folks about the origins of their beliefs and how these ideas have shaped their experiences and their lives. And, Paddy and Elizabeth noticed a common theme that connects these stories: after loss...
01.24.2019
Living for the Lost
There is no clear way to cope with death and grief. Moving forward is often heartbreaking, baffling, and uncertain. So, how do we best honor those we’ve lost? When he was 12-years-old, Navy Seal and backcountry snowboarder Josh Jespersen tragically...
01.10.2019
The Bravery of Kindness
From birth we are often told to be good. But what does that mean exactly? Kate Williams, CEO at 1% For The Planet, created her own “be good” guidelines when she was a child: achieve in the classroom, achieve on...
12.27.2018
The Death of Authenticity
Authenticity is a marketing buzzword that has trickled into our everyday. But what is authentic? And what happens to a person when their persona becomes a commodity? Today, our two guests discuss the intersection of individuals and brands in the...
12.13.2018
Build Your Own Net
Skiing with her family in Sun Valley, Idaho, and fishing in Alaska under the tutelage of her father shaped how McKenna Peterson navigates life. She learned dedication, resilience, hard work, and how to adjust plans while on the move. McKenna...
11.29.2018
Security Is A Myth
Romping around the Wasatch mountains as a kid taught Carl Richards that the outdoors had a certain value, albeit hard to define. Carl majored in finance and and began a career as a financial planner. He worked for some major...
11.15.2018
Conquer Your Big Wave
Bianca Valenti fell in love with surfing in the breaks of Orange County, California, when she was seven years old. Soon after, she started competing, gained sponsorships, and won competitions. Even at a young age, Bianca noticed a discrepancy in...
11.01.2018
Nature Is A Delicate Fortune
Len Necefer grew up splitting family time between the Midwest and the Four Corners, between auto workers and Navajo faith healers. One side of his family taught him the importance of hard work. The other showed him the necessity of...
10.18.2018
Be Your Ancestors' Wildest Dreams
As a first generation Mexican American raised in a strict household, Bam Mendiola felt the pressure to live up to the dreams of his parents. He had to look a certain way, be successful in school, and achieve, achieve, achieve....
08.16.2018
Virtual Reality Can Save The Places We Love
Sarah Steele grew up in Geneva, Switzerland, surrounded by some of the world’s most famous peaks, as well as a multitude of people dedicated to philanthropy, service, altruism, and conservation. So when she joined the fledgling Virtual Reality team at...
08.02.2018
Life Is Better In A Bathing Suit
Following a miscarriage, filmmaker Hannah Maia felt that her body had betrayed her. She was angry and felt a growing discomfort in her own skin. In the past, Hannah had bike packed on the Continental Divide Trail, rafted the Grand...
07.19.2018
Know Your Priorities. Forget About The Rest.
Eric Jackson has built a life and a career around kayaking, a sport that is foundationally individual. You are alone in a boat. And while kayaking is his life's purpose, Eric's responsibilities extend far beyond the river to his family,...
07.05.2018
The Outdoor Culture Is Killing Us
Stacy Bare's life has always been big. He's a big man with an even bigger personality. ROTC scholarship at age 17. Played rugby when he wasn’t deployed during his time with the Army. Served in the Army with tours in...
06.21.2018
Diversity Is More Than Color
Kareemah Batts is many things. A woman. A climber. An African American. A cancer survivor. An amputee. A self-described “broke girl from Flatbush.” She’s not just one thing. After being overlooked for conversations about diversity in the outdoor community, Kareemah...
06.07.2018
Barriers Need To Be Harnessed
At 14-years-old, Erik Weihenmayer lost his eyesight to a rare disease. He was devastated, feeling the crushing grip of loneliness and perceiving a limited future. Then, a rock climbing trip to North Conway, NH changed his perspective on what was...
05.22.2018
Learn From Your Enemies
Luis Benitez spent his twenties atop the world’s most famous mountains. After witnessing the Nangpa La shooting at Cho Oyu and meeting with the Dalai Lama, Luis changed his trajectory through life. Now he’s in charge of bringing recreation to...
05.22.2018
Let's Talk Life And Death
Jainee Dial and her boyfriend Brad took an ordinary climbing trip to Yosemite. They were a young couple doing what they love. When Brad died while climbing the Matthes Crest, Jainee’s life was turned upside down. Faced with the most...
05.22.2018
Marriage Is A Path To Self
Deep within our humanity is an engrained desire for companionship, but within our culture, there’s a need to have a clear identity. That’s what makes relationships challenging and wonderful. Host Paddy O’Connell’s parents, Molly Ryan and Mike O’Connell, discuss the...
05.22.2018
Channel Risk Into Reward
Chris McNamara has spent his life pursuing risky outdoor activities, like big wall climbing and BASE jumping. To him, they’re essential avenues of self-discovery. But what happens when an essential part of who you are has the ability to lead...
05.14.2018
Introducing Safety Third
More fun than a powder day. Riskier than leaping from a mountain. Weirder than a week on the playa. Welcome to Safety Third-- Ideas forged from adventure. The first season launches May 23rd. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's Safety Third about?

Download our free app to listen on your phone

Safety Third episodes:

Goodbye, Pals!

The Love Traverse: The Long Haul

The Love Traverse: Real Life Rom Com

The Love Traverse: Dirtbag Romance

Regaining Extraordinary Function

Kill The Stigma, Save Yourself

Chasing Fluid Perfection

Don’t Doubt Drought

Micro Jaunts Are Mega Experiences

Conservation Rebuilds Nations

No Doubt? No Diggity.

Save The Bear, Save The World

Blast Forward With Tiny Goals

Live at 5Point

Make Decisions At Race Pace

Flexibility Helps You Fly

Shattering Limitations

Rebranding The Outdoors

Perfect is the Enemy of Good

Hindsight Is 50/50

Living for the Lost

The Bravery of Kindness

The Death of Authenticity

Build Your Own Net

Security Is A Myth

Conquer Your Big Wave

Nature Is A Delicate Fortune

Be Your Ancestors' Wildest Dreams

Virtual Reality Can Save The Places We Love

Life Is Better In A Bathing Suit

Know Your Priorities. Forget About The Rest.

The Outdoor Culture Is Killing Us

Diversity Is More Than Color

Barriers Need To Be Harnessed

Learn From Your Enemies

Let's Talk Life And Death

Marriage Is A Path To Self

Channel Risk Into Reward

Introducing Safety Third