When I first met Jackie Norris during the campaign, one of the first things that stood out to me was how blunt and honest she was.
I respected that immediately.
Campaigns can get weird. You meet people who are supposed to be your opponents, but you also end up meeting people you genuinely like and respect. Jackie became one of those people for me.
On the latest episode of the Sage Against The Machine Podcast, we talked about politics, Iowa, public education, water quality, caregiving, working-class families and what might be next for her.
But one thing Jackie said really stuck with me.
She talked about how we need to look at these issues from the perspective of a parent.
If you’re a parent in Cass County, you want your kids to be able to swim in a clean lake. You want them to go to a good public school. You want to know that when your parents need care, your family isn’t going to be financially destroyed.
That’s what politics is supposed to be about.
Too often, we make everything about political parties, special interests and who can score the best campaign attack. Meanwhile, regular people are just trying to live their lives.
Jackie also made an important point about public education. We shouldn’t demonize parents who make different choices for their children. We should ask a bigger question: How do we make sure every kid has the opportunity to succeed?
That means talking honestly about funding, but also about what we’re teaching, career pathways, technology, cell phones, parental involvement and the challenges facing kids before they ever walk into a classroom.
And maybe most importantly, it means listening.
Jackie told us that her approach to decision-making has always been about hearing every voice, including the voices that don’t necessarily come to you on their own.
I think that’s something politics desperately needs right now.
We don’t need more people yelling at each other.
We need more people willing to sit down, have uncomfortable conversations, listen to people they disagree with and actually try to understand what working families are dealing with.
That’s what we’re trying to do with the Sage Against The Machine Podcast.
No political consultants telling us what we’re supposed to say. No pretending everything is perfect.
Just honest conversations about the issues that matter to people.
I’m grateful Jackie came on the show, and I’m grateful that somewhere along the campaign trail, an opponent became a friend.
And whatever Jackie decides to do next, I hope Iowa gets to see more of her.
Because we need more people in public life who actually give a damn.
Keep it real. Talk to people. Listen to people. And never forget who we’re supposed to be doing this for.
P.S. Happy Birthday Jackie!
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