Sales Leadership Podcast Summary with Mike Curliss, President of Maximizer, and Shane Gibson Keynote Sales Speaker and CEO of Professional Sales Academy. This is part 2 of our series with Mike Curliss – you can listen to Part 1 on AI for Sales here.

(Please note this post was written by humans and augmented with AI) Here’s the podcast summary:

The debate between sales leadership and sales management has been ongoing for decades. Which is more important? Which drives results? The reality is, it’s not an “either or scenario.” Success in sales leadership requires a balance of both. I recently sat down with Mike Curliss, President at Maximizer, to break down the nuances between these two roles, and how top-performing sales organizations leverage both effectively.

Sales managers focus on systems, process, and daily execution. They build and maintain structure, keep teams accountable, and drive short-term results. Their world is the next 90 days. They’re the front line, ensuring every rep stays on track.

Sales leaders, on the other hand, are visionaries. They look beyond the immediate quarter and set a strategic course for the future. They develop people, influence product direction, and anticipate market shifts. Leadership is about crafting and communicating a vision that inspires and aligns the team with the company’s long-term objectives.

The best sales leaders operate in both modes and have the competency tool kit to survive and thrive. Whether you have a formal leadership title or not, balancing management and leadership is crucial.

Organizations that over-index on sales management often create a culture of micromanagement. Reps check boxes, follow rigid scripts, and focus solely on KPIs, but lack inspiration. They meet quotas, but they don’t innovate or push boundaries.

On the flip side, organizations that lean too heavily into sales leadership without strong management systems often struggle with execution. There’s vision, but no roadmap and no sales playbook. Great ideas fizzle without action.

The winning formula? A blend of both. As Mike Curliss put it, “As a manager, you build the process box. As a leader, you shape the vision and ensure that box fits into the bigger picture.”

Technology, when used correctly, can enhance both sales management and leadership. CRMs provide structure, consistency, and visibility into key performance metrics, helping managers keep the team accountable. But AI-driven tools like Gong, Fathom, and Maximizer go a step further—they provide insights that empower leaders to make informed strategic decisions.

For example, in the Maximizer CRM AI can surface patterns in lost deals, highlight underutilized opportunities, and identify coaching moments. With the right data, a sales leader can proactively pivot strategies rather than react to missed targets.

People work for the managers they like and trust, not AI. – Mike Curliss, President – Maximizer

Many sales leaders today wear too many hats. They need to input on product roadmaps, collaborate with marketing, coach their teams, and hit aggressive revenue targets—all with fewer resources.

What’s the solution? Either add people or optimize process. In today’s economy, adding headcount isn’t always an option. This is why leveraging sales technology effectively becomes a game-changer. Leaders must drive efficiency through AI-driven CRM systems and automation while ensuring they invest in the right coaching and development for their people.

One of the most controversial topics in sales leadership is whether high-performing sales reps should be promoted into management. The assumption is that if they can sell, they can teach others to do the same.

The reality? Many top salespeople excel because they are self-motivated, competitive, and independent—qualities that don’t always translate into being great managers. Effective sales managers and leaders are process-driven, team-focused, and highly communicative.

Instead of automatically promoting the top rep, look for people who are already mentoring their peers, following process rigorously, and demonstrating strategic thinking. These are the future leaders of your organization.

A reactive sales leader waits for directives from the C-suite. A proactive sales leader anticipates challenges, drives innovation, and influences company strategy.

Proactive leaders:

The best sales organizations are not just managed—they are led. They balance accountability with vision. They build strong sales processes while cultivating a culture of adaptability and innovation.

So ask yourself: Are you managing your team? Or are you leading them? Great sales leaders don’t settle for one or the other. They master both.

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