Sales Tales - A podcast sharing epic stories that get you through your sales adventure.

Sales Tales - A podcast sharing epic stories that get you through your sales adventure.

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  • Episode 76 - 6 Sales Metrics That Look Good But Mean Nothing

    Your pipeline is full. Your metrics look great. So why isn't anything closing?

    In this episode of Sales Tales, Josh Shirley and Tom Niesen, aka the Conjurer, take on one of the most overlooked problems in sales leadership: the vanity metrics that show up in forecasting meetings, create false confidence, and quietly distort how salespeople behave.

    There is a sharp distinction that changes everything: the difference between a sales funnel meeting and a pipeline meeting. One is full of hopes, dreams, and optimism. The other is short, factual, and built on what's actually about to close. Most teams are running funnel meetings and calling them pipeline meetings, and it's costing them.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • The difference between a sales funnel and a pipeline, and why getting it wrong leads to bad forecasting, bad coaching, and bad culture
    • Why number of quotes sent can actually create more quoting behavior, not more revenue
    • How credit applications become a feel-good vanity metric that appease salespeople and mislead managers
    • Why demos shown is only a meaningful metric when it's tied to a specific next step, and how AOL accidentally explains why
    • What conversations as a metric gets right, what it gets wrong
    • Why meetings booked is the metric most SDR teams get wrong, and how chasing it produces bad meetings
    • Tom's number one: why measuring sales instead of customers is the most expensive habit in the business

    Josh also shares a story about a deal he closed with an urgent care clinic that he absolutely should not have closed, and exactly what went wrong when the implementation team showed up.

    Tom Niesen is a 30-year Sandler franchisee based in Texas. He is also, not coincidentally, a magician. This episode is both.

    Sales Tales is the sales training podcast for salespeople and sales leaders who want real sales tips and strategies, not theory. No fluff. Just the stuff that actually works.

    37 min
  • Episode 75 - 7 Discovery Questions Buyers Secretly Hate (And What to Ask Instead)

    Your buyers have heard your questions before. And they have answers ready.

    In this milestone 75th episode of Sales Tales, Josh Shirley and David Doherty pull back the curtain on seven of the most common discovery questions in sales, the ones buyers see coming, prepare for, and use against you. Pulled from real sales communities, Reddit threads, Gartner forums, and B2B buyer feedback, these are the questions that are quietly costing you deals, not because they're wrong, but because of when and how you're asking them.

    This is not about throwing out your discovery process. It's about getting smarter with it.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why "What keeps you up at night?" is overused, ill-timed, and how to replace it with something that actually works
    • The right moment to ask about budget, and why asking too soon gets you stonewalled every time
    • Why "What don't you like about your current vendor?" puts buyers on the defensive, and the simple flip that opens them up instead
    • How "Who besides yourself is involved in the decision?" can backfire, and what process-first questioning gets you further
    • Why "How do you do that today?" kills your pain funnel momentum right when you've built it
    • The lazy question you're probably throwing out too early and how to make it actually land
    • Why "When should we get started?" creates pressure instead of a real timeline

    Josh and Dave also share real stories from the field, including a cold call that went sideways when a seller asked about revenue too fast, and an executive meeting in Houston where a reversed question came at completely the wrong moment.

    Sales Tales is the sales training podcast that brings you real-world sales tips and strategies grounded in the Sandler methodology. 75 episodes in, and we're just getting started.

    44 min
  • Episode 74 - The $200K Deal That Ended in Handcuffs: Real Sales Horror Stories with Tom Niesen

    What happens when you're so sure you have a deal that you stop selling, and then everything falls apart?

    In this episode of Sales Tales, Josh Shirley sits down with Tom Niesen, 30-year Sandler trainer, magician, and veteran of some of the most memorable sales disasters you'll ever hear. Tom brings two real-life stories from the field that are equal parts entertaining and educational, plus the lessons packed inside them are ones every salesperson needs to hear.

    In Story 1, Tom is on the one-yard line of a $150,000 sale that should have been a lock. Three of his company's machines already in the plant, no real competition, until he shows up to collect the contract and finds out his champion is in Vegas. With the competitor. And things escalate from there, all the way to the CEO's office and a pair of handcuffs.

    In Story 2, Tom is deep in a pursuit and starts deploying one of Sandler's most powerful tools, negative reversing, one too many times. The prospect finally takes him at his word. And just like that, the deal is done.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why "beware the happy prospect" is one of the most important rules in sales
    • How assuming you have the sale can open the door wide for your competition (without you even knowing it)
    • The difference between a selling process and a features-and-benefits pitch, and why it matters
    • What negative reversing is, how it works, and exactly when NOT to use it
    • Why the deals you're most confident about are sometimes the ones you're about to lose
    • How to use judo logic in a sales conversation to get a prospect to overcome their own objections

    Tom Niesen is a Sandler franchisee based in Texas with 30 years of experience training sales teams. He paid his way through college doing magic at a bar he helped open after convincing the city council to grant him a liquor license. He is exactly as good as this sounds.

    Sales Tales is the sales training podcast built on real sales stories, real tactics, and zero fluff. If you want to know how to close deals, handle objections, and think like a top salesperson, you're in the right place.

    42 min
  • Episode 73 - Why Your Deal Went Dead, And What You Did to Kill It

    Most salespeople blame the deal. The real problem is what happened in the cockpit.

    In this episode of Sales Tales, Josh Shirley and David Doherty break down a listener poll that asked: when a deal dies, what really killed it? The results were eye-opening. Nearly 80% of the time, lost deals trace back to qualification failures that were entirely within the seller's control. And the biggest culprit? Giving the controls to the wrong person too soon.

    Built around the story of a passenger who had to land a plane after the pilot collapsed mid-flight, this episode is a masterclass in why sellers need to stay in the cockpit, and exactly how to do it.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why asking "are you the decision maker?" is the wrong first question, and what to ask instead
    • How to map the real decision process without putting your champion on the defensive
    • What to do when someone insists they make the decision, and you know they don't
    • Why fake timelines kill deals and how to smoke out a vague Q3 before it costs you
    • How to use upfront contracts early to avoid the decision-maker trap altogether
    • Why 50% of lost deals come down to the wrong person, 29% to bad timelines, and what that means for your pipeline

    This episode is essential for B2B salespeople, account executives, sales managers, and anyone who has watched a solid deal quietly disappear and wondered what went wrong. Because in most cases, you already had what you needed to save it.

    Sales Tales is the sales training podcast for people who want real sales tips and strategies they can use today, built on the Sandler selling methodology and real-life sales experiences from the field.

    39 min
  • Episode 72 - How to Get More Referrals Using LinkedIn (The Rule of Seven)

    Most salespeople treat referrals like luck... something that just happens to them. But what if you could build a repeatable process to generate referrals on demand?

    In this episode of Sales Tales, Josh Shirley breaks down the LinkedIn Rule of Seven, a systematic framework for turning your existing network into a predictable referral engine. Whether you've got a handful of clients or a book of hundreds, this process will show you how to stop waiting for referrals and start producing them.

    In this episode, you'll learn:

    • Why 8 out of 10 of your clients will give you a referral, but only if you ask
    • What the LinkedIn Rule of Seven is and how the math actually works in the wild
    • The three applications of the rule: one-to-many, many-to-one, and one-to-one, and when to use each
    • How LinkedIn Sales Navigator supercharges your referral prospecting
    • The exact process Josh uses to hit a goal of 75 referrals in 90 days
    • How to make it effortless for someone to refer you (including ghost-written intro text)

    If you've ever wondered how to close more deals, build a stronger pipeline, or finally tap into the warm leads that are already sitting inside your network, this episode is your blueprint.

    Sales Tales is the podcast for salespeople who want real sales tips and strategies they can apply today. No fluff, no theory, just tactics that work.

    28 min
  • Episode 71 – 7 Email Fails That Are Costing You Deals (And What to Do Instead)

    Most sales emails don't fail because of bad timing or the wrong list. They fail because of small, fixable mistakes sellers make every single day, and often don't even notice.

    In this episode of Sales Tales, Josh Shirley and David Doherty break down seven of the most common email worst practices in professional selling, using real examples pulled straight from Josh's inbox. From overstuffed intros to subject lines nobody opens, these are the habits quietly draining your pipeline and the adjustments that can turn things around fast.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why emails over 75 words are working against you before they're even read
    • How sending attachments and presentations too early kills deals before they start
    • Why opening with what you want creates resistance before the conversation begins
    • How vague asks ("open to connecting?") leave buyers confused and disengaged
    • Why the subject line deserves more of your time than the email itself
    • How timing your sends around crowded inboxes can improve open rates
    • Why over-explaining your reason for reaching out backfires, and what to do instead

    This episode is for sales leaders, account executives, business development professionals, and anyone who sends prospecting emails and wonders why they're not getting responses. Because in professional selling, a bad email doesn't just get ignored, it closes a door that might have been open.

    40 min
  • Episode 70 – The 5 Biggest Lies in Sales (That We're Still Teaching Each Other)

    What if the advice that launched your sales career is the same advice that's been slowing you down?

    In this milestone 70th episode of Sales Tales, Josh Shirley and David Doherty take on five of the most persistent myths in professional selling... ideas still showing up in sales training, sales movies, and social media feeds every single day. These aren't fringe theories. They're things most sellers were handed early in their careers and never questioned.

    Using real stories, Sandler methodology, and a healthy dose of honesty about their own early mistakes, Josh and Dave break down why these five "rules" create pressure, damage trust, and cost sellers real money.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why "Always Be Closing" creates the wrong mindset, and what to do instead
    • Why "Buyers are Liars" puts the blame in the wrong place
    • Why the Alternative Choice Close is a manipulation tactic that backfires
    • Why getting people to like you is not the same as getting them to trust you
    • Why over-investing in the presentation is often a sign that qualification was skipped
    • What Sandler methodology offers as a better framework for each of these

    This episode is for sales leaders, account executives, business development professionals, and anyone who has ever followed conventional sales advice and wondered why it felt off or why it stopped working.

    Because in professional selling, the rules you inherit are worth questioning. The best sellers don't just learn more. They unlearn what's holding them back.

    49 min
  • Episode 69 - RACI: The Framework That Fixes Your Decision-Making Blind Spots

    Serious sellers: if deals are stalling, it might not be your pitch. It might be that you don't actually know who you're selling to.

    In this episode of Sales Tales, sales experts Josh Shirley and David Doherty break down RACI, a practical framework for mapping the decision-making structure inside any organization you're selling to. Using real listener poll data as a jumping-off point, Josh and Dave connect the dots between the most common reasons deals stall and the clarity that RACI brings to complex, multi-stakeholder sales.

    Whether you're navigating enterprise accounts or trying to get to the right person faster, this episode gives you a framework for understanding who's Responsible, Accountable, Consulted, and Informed, on both sides of the deal.

    In this episode, we cover:

    • Why 40% of deals stall because sellers never reach the real decision maker
    • How the RACI model maps the people, priorities, and politics inside a buyer's organization
    • The difference between who owns the problem and who owns the outcome
    • How to identify consulted stakeholders who carry hidden influence over decisions
    • How to apply RACI to your own selling team for complex, multi-resource deals
    • Why vague timelines and shallow discovery are symptoms of the same root problem

    This episode is for sales leaders, account executives, business development professionals, and anyone selling into complex organizations who want to qualify more effectively, access the right stakeholders, and stop losing deals they should be winning.

    Because in professional selling, knowing who you're talking to is just as important as knowing what to say.

    40 min
  • Episode 68 - How to Protect Deals After Agreement

    Some of the biggest problems in sales actually begin after the agreement. Many sales professionals think the job is done when the buyer says yes.

    In this episode of Sales Tales, sales experts Josh Shirley and David Doherty explore the often overlooked Post-Sell step and why failing to define what “yes” actually means can create implementation issues, buyer’s remorse, and lost referrals.

    Post-selling is not just something that happens after the contract is signed. It happens every time a prospect agrees to a next step.

    This episode covers how:

    • Weak post-sell conversations create downstream problems
    • Unclear expectations lead to poor implementation experiences
    • To confirm next steps after meetings, agreements, and commitments
    • To reduce buyer’s remorse after major decisions
    • To create accountability with prospects, customers, and sales teams

    Because strong selling does not end with agreement. It continues through clarity, alignment, and execution.

    Learning how to define expectations after every “yes” helps sales professionals create smoother buying experiences and stronger long-term relationships.

    41 min
  • Episode 67 - Overcoming Discomfort Talking About Price

    Talking about money can feel uncomfortable, even for experienced sales professionals.

    Our personal beliefs about money often shape how confidently we discuss pricing, budget, and financial impact with buyers.

    In this episode of Sales Tales, sales experts Josh Shirley and David Doherty explore how internal money stories influence sales conversations, and how those beliefs can create hesitation when discussing cost, investment, and value.

    Joined by special guest Alana Nicol, the team examines real sales situations where budget conversations feel difficult and why sellers sometimes avoid discussing money altogether.

    This episode explores:

    • Why sellers hesitate to ask budget questions
    • How personal financial beliefs influence pricing confidence
    • How discomfort around money affects deal outcomes
    • How to approach financial conversations with equal business stature
    • How to create more productive discussions about investment and value

    Because in professional selling, avoiding conversations about money often prevents buyers from solving real problems.

    Learning how to approach financial discussions with confidence helps sellers improve trust, clarity, and decision-making.

    36 min

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