The following skit was filmed years ago and because this is audio only, I have to translate mediums . Joe Rogan is the first to speak. The one who talks like he is falling asleep is Sam Harris’s, . The others voices are from the movie Rocky.

If you listen to the after the skit there’s either a retrospective rant where I rebuff your complaints to refund your time or Finally directly address my underlying grievance with Sam for breaking up with me.

skit over,

this was not my first fly over Sam’s Death Star. But some flaws I have noticed in my previous paths is I have critiqued the implications of some of Sam’s beliefs, without showing the lack of merit in his beliefs. So what if the implications would overturn the status quo, if they are true, let the chips fall where they may.

Sam does not believe in free will and that self is an illusion. The implications would be why do we vote, why use the market place of ideas, if we really don’t choose why put voting on a pedestal. I guess we couldn’t help it we have no choice. Pondering in Sam’s view of determinism quickly leads to wandering off of a clear path. But so what, if it were true, we’d best face it.

I regret that didn’t begin with before you consider the implications, the reasons and evidence Sam gives to his extradornary claim that people don’t have free will, Sam does not deliver extradornay evidence.

What is his evidence, i am paraphrasing but i don’t think getting the gist wrong. This is the example I heard him give to Joe Rogan to disprove freewill.

There was an experiment. People were brought in as subjects. they had to pick to lift there left or right arm. There is a device, they are hooked up to that montiers the subjects brain activity. Either with blood movement, or electrical activity this device can tell the technician when the subject made the decision to lift the right or left arm. When the subject decided, they made some signal to the technician. The technician already knew before the subject gave them that signal. Sam goes that’s proof you don’t consciously decide, because before you signal you decided, someone looking at this device, already knew.

Maybe that was extraordinary to you. Maybe you have no choice, and you can’t help but think, that’s convincing. If Sam is right you don’t really choose if it is extraordinary or not.

For me i thought I must be too dumb to understand the experiment, but Sam really seems to be sure.

Still I don’t see how this disproved someone choosing left or right, it wasn’t that the device or the technician decided for the subject, just it picked up on it the subject’s decision before the subject communicated that signal to the technician. It at best picked up an earlier position in the chain of events, of the subjects decision. I don’t see how the experiment shown people dont’ make free will decisions, that all are decisions are just random, nonsensical. You might randomly decide left or right arm sitting in a safe setting, but do you randomly decide to make a right or left turn in your car, and don’t look for other cars, if there’s a road you’re turning onto or a cliff. When Sam was explaining the experiment I thought he was going to lead to a clear demonstration of how the subject wanted to go left, but the device made it go right. Even if that were the case, or in a later date such a device could be made, it still wouldn’t disprove that humans have free will. It would only prove a mind control device could control a human brain.

If you’re thinking, just because that experiment is not world shattering like the Wright brothers getting a plane in the air. Maybe Sam has other arguments. How do you so pridefully know free will does exist?

Isn’t that an admission on your part that you are conscious and making free choices, to disregard my arguments. Or to call me boring, or any opion you hold, didn’t you freely choose that.