Most teams obsessing over token costs are measuring the wrong thing. The real savings from AI aren't in lines of code written faster. They're in the coordination overhead that disappears when fewer humans need to align before anything gets built.

Chris Kelly, Head of Product at Augment Code, joins Rob to cover why prototypes have replaced specs, how agents enable dynamic team capacity the way cloud replaced over-provisioned servers, and what "good code" even means when your primary reader is an LLM.

In this episode:

• Why coordination costs are the hidden savings of AI-assisted development
• How agents make dynamic team capacity finally achievable
• What junior engineers actually need to know as abstraction layers keep rising
• How self-improving agents could change incident response and code quality

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