Sandra Crosswell, CISO/CSO @sonicwall joins the HACKED podcast. We dive deep into Red Teams and all sorts of penetration testing topics. She gives an inside look to her role and the challenges of being the first individual in the seat. Additionally, she shares her thoughts on the talent gap and hiring penetration testers. During Overrated/Underrated, we get her opinion on hacking certifications and black hats moving into corporate roles.