One of the first AKC Scent Work judges and an AKC Scent Work Expert Judge, Sandra is also a trainer and high-level competitor. Much of our conversation revolves around the job of the handler in scent work, which she reinforces with T-shirt-worthy sayings like “be a hot date to your dog,” “pay a dog a CEO salary for flipping burgers,” and "your dog is the subject matter expert, and you are the manager." We also discuss how to balance honoring your dog’s choices with being a good partner, along with her lazy trainer philosophy for building a dog with drive, confidence, and a genuine desire to hunt.