Josh grapples with iPhone envy, Ned questions his negotiating skills over a $40 ET figurine and together they deep dive into the wild world of celebrity backstage riders—featuring Frank Sinatra’s soup obsession. Plus, an unexpected obsession with Rumun, the AFL’s Tasmanian devil mascot, gets unpacked and Ned questions the wisdom of putting him in charge of training new staff. There’s an a surprising amount of soup chat in this mess of an episode of The Ned & Josh Podcast.

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