Harwood "Bendy" White sits down with Josh Molina to talk about Santa Barbara's housing crisis, height limits, outdoor dining, and his memoir about life in Santa Barbara. White also reflects on the end of the Santa Barbara News-Press and what that means to the community. White spent 14 years on the city planning commission, as well as time on the county planning commission and city water commission.

Joshua Molina is journalist who currently writes for Noozhawk and teaches journalism at Santa Barbara City College and Cal State University, Northridge. He formerly covered politics and land use for the San Jose Mercury News. Santa Barbara Talks is an independently owned podcast where Molina looks to bring together voices from all perspectives to discuss and provide solutions to the challenges related to housing, education, transportation and other community issues. Subscribe to his podcast here and consider a contribution here.