As the latest installment in our Broken Border (https://www.sfcir.org/the-broken-border/) series, I sat with Terry Goddard, the former Attorney General from Arizona. In this episode, we talk about the extreme challenges in a state's enforcement of the border, including the over-emphasis on stopping human migration and little-to-no emphasis on financial flows. Listen in as Terry talks about, among many other things, his efforts to stop cross-border money laundering.