Jigsaw’s long-term apprentice Mia Lee Vicino sat down with the director of Saw X, Kevin Greutert, to pick his brain about the long-running horror franchise. Kevin has edited the first five Saw films, directed fan-favorite Saw VI and Saw 3D, and now returns to the electric director’s chair for the tenth installment, which is—as of recording—the most critically acclaimed Saw since Lawrence and Adam initially got trapped in that fateful bathroom nineteen years ago. We chat about the beauty and brutality of New French Extremity and practical gore, which Saw traps we could most likely survive and whether or not Jigsaw’s claims of “never having killed anyone” are credible, or just delusional. Blades up, little murder puppets!

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