Say It Anyway

Say It Anyway

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Say It Anyway episodes

  • AI-ready schema: Feeding Google’s answer engines with structured data

    Join Alex Moss, Principal SEO at Yoast and co-founder of FireCask, as he dives into the world of AI-ready schema and structured data, sharing insights from his 20+ years of experience in technical SEO. In this episode, Alex walks us through how schema has evolved to support Google’s AI-driven answer engines, and why it’s more important than ever to ensure your site is AI-ready. Discover practical strategies for structuring data, writing AI-friendly content, and troubleshooting common markup mistakes. Alex also shares his step-by-step audit process for ensuring structured data is truly working for your site and measurable in search performance. Tune in for valuable advice on entity hooks, knowledge graphs, and advanced SEO tactics that can help you make the most of AI-driven search results.

    38 min
  • The AI reality: Navigating strategic shifts in SEO

    Join Barry Schwartz, President at RustyBrick, Thomas Phillips, Co-Founder of DTC SEO Agency, and Janna Pugh, SEO Specialist at Five9, as they discuss how AI-driven search is rewriting the SEO rulebook. Discover where generative tools like ChatGPT and Gemini genuinely speed up competitor research, interlinking, and product categorization—and where unchecked automations can sabotage title tags and tank traffic. Learn why Google’s AI Mode, AI Overviews, and upcoming agentic shopping experiences are shifting clicks away from websites, and how rock-solid technical SEO, sharp brand positioning, and E-E-A-T safeguards keep you in the game. Tune in for candid strategies to balance AI efficiency with human insight, redefine success metrics, and stay essential as search evolves beyond the blue link.

    38 min
  • Building a Sustainable SEO Strategy for Local Businesses

    In this episode, John Reinesch, Founder of Asset Growth, shares key insights into building and sustaining effective local SEO strategies. Learn about long-term versus short-term tactics, foundational SEO elements, adapting to algorithm changes, and the importance of leveraging content. John also covers community-focused backlink building, mobile optimization, the power of customer reviews, and using AI and social media to boost local visibility.

    31 min
  • Driving Real Revenue with SEO: Unpacking Demand Generation, Attribution & AI

    ​In this episode, Marketing Director at edays, Lewis Rennison, dives into how AI-driven search tools are reshaping SEO—highlighting which strategies are becoming obsolete and which core practices remain essential. Discover how to leverage AI to enhance demand generation, accurately attribute revenue to SEO efforts, and build an effective multi-channel marketing strategy. Lewis also explores the rising importance of video content, the impact of AI-generated overviews on search rankings, and how businesses can future-proof their SEO efforts.

    29 min
  • Local SEO & Google Business Profiles: Future Trends

    In this episode, local SEO expert and Platinum Google Product Expert, Claudia Tomina, discusses how AI-driven search tools are reshaping local SEO—highlighting which strategies are becoming obsolete and which core practices remain essential. Discover how to leverage AI to optimize Google Business Profiles, enhance local search visibility, and build an effective multi-location SEO strategy. Claudia also explores the rising importance of video content, the impact of AI Overviews on search rankings, and how businesses can future-proof their local SEO efforts in an increasingly AI-driven landscape.

    23 min
  • How SEO Copywriting Has Evolved With GenAI Search — What Works, What’s Dead, and How to Stay Ahead

    In this episode, the pioneer of SEO copywriting, Heather Lloyd-Martin, discusses how generative AI tools are reshaping SEO copywriting—highlighting which tactics are losing relevance and which foundational principles still stand. Discover strategies for leveraging AI to enhance content quality, maintain brand authenticity, and meet evolving search engine requirements. Heather also explores the risks of overreliance on AI, insights into user engagement, and how to future-proof your SEO skills in a rapidly changing digital landscape.

    38 min
  • Adapting SEO for Generative AI: Creating Content That Serves AI-Powered Search Experiences

    In this episode, Rejoice Ojiaku discusses SEO strategies that serve AI-driven search experiences like AI Overviews and ChatGPT. Discover how generative AI is transforming SEO, the challenges and opportunities it presents for content creators, and actionable tips for optimizing content. Rejoice also talks about preserving brand voice in AI-generated summaries, integrating GEO into workflows, and the importance of diversity and inclusion in the age of AI. 


    39 min
  • The State of AI Overviews in 2024 – Research Insights and Future Forecasts

    Join industry-leading SEO experts for an exclusive panel discussion on Google's AI Overviews.  Barry Schwartz, Itamar Blauer, Erin Sparks and Anastasia K. are discussing the evolution of AI-driven search features and examining their impact on search visibility and ranking dynamics. Get thought-provoking insights and strategies from the brightest in SEO.

    This discussion focuses on SE Ranking's AI Overview research, a feature that offers a rare look into the data-driven trends shaping the SEO landscape. Our guests will discuss how AI tools are changing content optimization and what this means for SEO strategies in the years ahead.


    32 min
  • Maximizing Impact with Minimal Resources: Crafting Effective SEO Strategies for Budget-Conscious Clients

    In this episode, Signify Digital’s Managing Partner Beth Sherman explains how to create impactful SEO strategies on a tight budget. Learn how to tackle key challenges for budget-conscious clients, focus on areas with the highest ROI, and use the most cost-effective SEO tools and techniques. Beth also shares her approach to prioritizing tactics, involving clients, and leveraging local SEO to deliver results.

    32 min
  • Mastering Analytics for Agencies: Insights from GA4 and Beyond

    Explore GA4 analytics with Dana DiTomaso, President and Partner at Kick Point. In this episode, Dana shares her expertise with GA4, covering everything from using its event-based model to reporting with Looker Studio. Discover how to unlock GA4’s powerful features like 'Explorations' and get practical strategies for managing data privacy as cookies are being phased out.

    Want to dive deeper into GA4? Use the exclusive promo code SERANKING to get 20% off of Dana’s advanced courses on analytics:


    • Grow Your Agency with Google Analytics Training & Templates
    • Practical GA4 Course: a Hands-on Way to Learn Google Analytics 4


    A must-listen for agencies and professionals looking to get the most out of their analytics.

    41 min

About Say It Anyway

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Say It Anyway is the podcast where we say the things about digital marketing you’re technically supposed to keep to yourself. Every week, hosts Mordy Oberstein (Head of Brand, SE Ranking) and…